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== Kaisar/kaisarina/permaisuri ==
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Imho lebih tepat Kaisar, bukan Permaisuri. Di kamus tidak didefinisikan kaisar selalu laki-laki. <small><br />[[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin|✒]]</small> [[Pengguna:Bennylin|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">βέννγλιν</span>]] 12:03, 4 Januari 2011 (UTC)
:Dalam hal ini saya berbeda pendapat, Bung Bennylin. Dalam penulisan sejarah ataupun umum di Indonesia, tidak pernah saya bertemu istilah "Kaisar" digunakan untuk seorang wanita. Istilah "Permaisuri" saya pilih untuk padanan ''Empress'', karena Matilda menyandang gelar tersebut bukan sebagai pemegang kekuasaan politik, melainkan sebagai pendamping ''Emperor''. Seandainya ia pemegang kekuasaan politik, maka saya lebih condong memilih istilah "Kaisar Wanita", yang juga digunakan dalam penulisan sejarah maupun umum di Indonesia. Salam, [[Pengguna:Naval Scene|Naval Scene]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Naval Scene|bicara]]) 02:47, 5 Januari 2011 (UTC)
::Ah, ok, saya belum membaca artikelnya sebelumnya. Saya hanya berasumsi dari bahasa Inggrisnya: ''empress'' selalu pemegang kekuasaan. Kalau demikian [[Kaisarina Go-Sakuramachi]] lebih tepat [[
:::Ya, pendapat anda memang ada benarnya juga.{{smile}} Hanya saja karena ini Wikipedia, untuk menghindari riset asli maka saya lebih cenderung berpendapat untuk memakai istilah yang umum saja dalam teks/terbitan berbahasa Indonesia. Saya juga berpendapat untuk Go-Sakuramachi sebaiknya gelarnya "Kaisar Wanita" saja, sedangkan untuk Rusia istilah yang umum dalam penulisan sejarah menurut saya adalah "Tsarina".<ref>Sudarsono (2003), ''[http://books.google.co.id/books?id=r_tkAAAAMAAJ&q=Seorang+Tsarina&dq=Seorang+Tsarina&hl=id&ei=flwkTZKZK87OrQf-1uCnDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA Seni pertunjukan dari perspektif politik, sosial, dan ekonomi]'', Gadjah Mada University Press.</ref> Salam, [[Pengguna:Naval Scene|Naval Scene]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Naval Scene|bicara]]) 11:54, 5 Januari 2011 (UTC)
::::Ya, Anda betul. Tsarina. Mungkin "kata" jadi-jadian Kaisarina diturunkan dari sana (*PRUntukBahasawan*) atau dari bahasa Jerman [[:en:Kaiserin]]. Silakan Go-Sakuramachi dipindahkan. Salam. <small><br />[[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin|✒]]</small> [[Pengguna:Bennylin|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">βέννγλιν</span>]] 11:41, 6 Januari 2011 (UTC)
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