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Mengapa penamaan Paus tidak seragam? Misalnya [[Paus Nikolas III]] tapi [[Paus Nicolaas V]], juga [[Paus Innocentius VI]] tapi [[Paus Innosentius VII]]? Saya bukan orang Katolik, dan tidak punya Ensiklopedi Katolik dalam bahasa Indonesia. --[[Pengguna:Datang|Datang]] 23:53, 20 Mei 2006 (UTC)
:Ini disebabkan oleh penulis wikipedia yang sangat beragam. Ada yang mengambil acuan dari bahasa Inggris, ada juga bahasa Indonesia, dan mungkin ada juga yang mengambil bahasa Latinnya. Dan memang belum ada kesepakatan penamaan. [[Pengguna:Roscoe x|roscoe_x]] 03:11, 21 Mei 2006 (UTC)
 
Kalau begitu jika ada pengguna yang paham, mungkin bisa membantu disini (StephenSuleeman mungkin?). Karena banyak nama paus yang memang tidak seragam, misalnya Aleksander atau Alexander, Clements atau Klements, dll (kalau ada). [[UserPengguna:Borgx|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Bold" color="#1F85FF">borgx</font>]]<sup>([[User_talkPembicaraan Pengguna:Borgx|<font color="#003366">kirim pesan</font>]])</sup> 00:29, 15 Juni 2006 (UTC)
 
:Ya, barusan saya bersama Ivan berusaha menyeragamkannya. Dalam batas tertentu, saya telah mencobanya, namun sayangnya memang saya tidak punya akses ke Ensiklopedi Gereja Katolik Indonesia. Karena itu saya juga tadi agak bingung, mis. antara Marcellus dan Marsellus (saya cenderung ke Marselus - dengan satu "l"). Kalau ada yang punya akses, mungkin akan lebih membantu.--[[Pengguna:Stephensuleeman|Stephensuleeman]] 02:03, 15 Juni 2006 (UTC)
 
== Suntingan terakhir ==
Mungkin ada yang bisa mengecheck suntingan terakhir 60.52.12.28. [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 17:10, 23 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
:Ada [[:en:Pope-elect Stephen]] yang menyebabkan semua paus dengan nama "Stephen" setelah [[Paus Stephen II]] memiliki nomor ganda. Misalnya Stephen II disebut juga Stephen III, etc. Suntingan terakhir sudah dicek faktanya ke [[:en:List of popes]]. •• [[UserPengguna:IvanLanin|ivanlanin]] [[User Talk:IvanLanin|&#9835;]] •• 02:12, 24 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
Ohya ada refrensi untuk nama Paus tidak? Saya ada buku 264 Paus... Banyak nama yang terjemahannya berbeda.... [[Pengguna:Andreas Erick|Andreas Erick]] 02:44, 24 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
:Memang kalau saya banding-bandingkan, ada beberapa yang belum sesuai dengan penyebutan nama seperti dengan contoh di artikel [http://www.gerejakatolik.net/info/parapaus.htm Para Paus di GerejaKatolik.net]. Mungkin kita bisa buatkan tabel komparasinya di halaman diskusi ini dulu saja. [[GambarBerkas:Face-glasses.svg|20px]] [[Pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|Leo]]<sup>[[Pembicaraan pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|••bicara••]]</sup> 04:52, 24 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
Ya setuju, buatkan dulu tabelnya jadi bisa dilihat perbedaannya. [[Pengguna:Borgx|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Bold" color="#1F85FF">borgx</font>]]<sup>([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Borgx|<font color="#003366">kirim pesan</font>]])</sup> 06:02, 24 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
Berhubung agak susah bikin tabel di wikinya, dan saya belum sempat :(, jadi, saya ''upload'' dulu versi Excelnya. Di file ini terdapat perbandingan dengan versi GerejaKatolik.net. Bagi yang ''sempat'', tolong bisa dilihat dulu. Filenya adalah [[:Berkas:Analisa untuk Daftar Paus.xls|Analisa untuk Daftar Paus.xls]] [[Berkas:Face-glasses.svg|24px]][[Pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|Leo]]<sup>[[Pembicaraan pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|••bicara••]]</sup> 11:40, 26 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
== Perubahan 78 nama ==
Wow, melihat perubahannya ada 78 nama, ini bener2 banyak yang mesti dikoreksi, mulai dari:
* [[Templat:Daftar Paus]]
* Kotak suksesi Paus di masing-masing artikel
* ''Infobox'' Paus
* ''Pipe'' di bagian kategori
* ada lagi?
''So, let's do it!'' *fiuh*
 
<div style="font-size:90%;">
{| {{prettytable}}
| colspan=4 align=center style="background:lightyellow" | '''DAFTAR PERUBAHAN [[Daftar Paus|NAMA-NAMA PAUS]]'''
|- style="background:lightgrey"
! No#
! Paus#
! Baru*
! Dahulu
|-
| 1 || 4 || [[Paus Klemens I]] || [[Paus Clemens I]]
|-
| 2 || 6 || [[Paus Aleksander I]] || [[Paus Alexander I]]
|-
| 3 || 7 || [[Paus Siktus I]] || [[Paus Sixtus I]]
|-
| 4 || 8 || [[Paus Telesphorus]] || [[Paus Telesforus]]
|-
| 5 || 9 || [[Paus Hyginus]] || [[Paus Higinus]]
|-
| 6 || 13 || [[Paus Eleutherius]] || [[Paus Eleuterus]]
|-
| 7 || 15 || [[Paus Zephyrinus]] || [[Paus Zefirinus]]
|-
| 8 || 16 || [[Paus Kallistus I]] || [[Paus Kallixtus I]]
|-
| 9 || 24 || [[Paus Siktus II]] || [[Paus Sixtus II]]
|-
| 10 || 26 || [[Paus Feliks I]] || [[Paus Felix I]]
|-
| 11 || 27 || [[Paus Eutychianus]] || [[Paus Eutikianus]]
|-
| 12 || 28 || [[Paus Gaius]] || [[Paus Kaius]]
|-
| 13 || 29 || [[Paus Marsellinus]] || [[Paus Marsellinus]]
|-
| 14 || 32 || [[Paus Meltiades]] || [[Paus Miltiades]]
|-
| 15 || 35 || [[Paus Julius I]] || [[Paus Yulius I]]
|-
| 16 || 38 || [[Paus Sirisius]] || [[Paus Sirisius]]
|-
| 17 || 40 || [[Paus Innosensius I]] || [[Paus Innosentius I]]
|-
| 18 || 42 || [[Paus Bonifasius I]] || [[Paus Bonifatius I]]
|-
| 19 || 43 || [[Paus Selestinus I]] || [[Paus Celestinus I]]
|-
| 20 || 44 || [[Paus Siktus III]] || [[Paus Sixtus III]]
|-
| 21 || 48 || [[Paus Feliks III]] || [[Paus Felix III]]
|-
| 22 || 51 || [[Paus Symnakus]] || [[Paus Simakhus]]
|-
| 23 || 52 || [[Paus Hormidas]] || [[Paus Hormisdas]]
|-
| 24 || 54 || [[Paus Feliks IV]] || [[Paus Felix IV]]
|-
| 25 || 55 || [[Paus Bonifasius II]] || [[Paus Bonifatius II]]
|-
| 26 || 57 || [[Paus Agapitus I]] || [[Santo Agapetus I, Paus]]
|-
| 27 || 65 || [[Paus Sabianus]] || [[Paus Sabinianus]]
|-
| 28 || 66 || [[Paus Bonifasius III]] || [[Paus Bonifatius III]]
|-
| 29 || 67 || [[Paus Bonifasius IV]] || [[Paus Bonifatius IV]]
|-
| 30 || 69 || [[Paus Bonifasius V]] || [[Paus Bonifatius V]]
|-
| 31 || 79 || [[Paus Agathus]] || [[Paus Agatho]]
|-
| 32 || 83 || [[Paus Conon]] || [[Paus Konon]]
|-
| 33 || 87 || [[Paus Sisinnius]] || [[Paus Sisinius]]
|-
| 34 || 91 || [[Paus Zakarias]] || [[Paus Zakharias]]
|-
| 35 || 112 || [[Paus Bonifasius VI]] || [[Paus Bonifatius VI]]
|-
| 36 || 129 || [[Paus Agapitus II]] || [[Paus Agapetus II]]
|-
| 37 || 149 || [[Paus Klemens II]] || [[Paus Clemens II]]
|-
| 38 || 156 || [[Paus Aleksander II]] || [[Paus Alexander II]]
|-
| 39 || 162 || [[Paus Kallistus II]] || [[Paus Kallixtus II]]
|-
| 40 || 164 || [[Paus Innosensius II]] || [[Paus Innosentius II]]
|-
| 41 || 165 || [[Paus Selestinus II]] || [[Paus Celestinus II]]
|-
| 42 || 170 || [[Paus Aleksander III]] || [[Paus Alexander III]]
|-
| 43 || 174 || [[Paus Klemens III]] || [[Paus Clemens III]]
|-
| 44 || 175 || [[Paus Selestinus III]] || [[Paus Celestinus III]]
|-
| 45 || 176 || [[Paus Innosensius III]] || [[Paus Innosentius III]]
|-
| 46 || 179 || [[Paus Selestinus IV]] || [[Paus Celestinus IV]]
|-
| 47 || 180 || [[Paus Innosensius IV]] || [[Paus Innosentius IV]]
|-
| 48 || 181 || [[Paus Aleksander IV]] || [[Paus Alexander IV]]
|-
| 49 || 183 || [[Paus Klemens IV]] || [[Paus Clemens IV]]
|-
| 50 || 185 || [[Paus Innosensius V]] || [[Paus Innosentius V]]
|-
| 51 || 192 || [[Paus Selestinus V]] || [[Paus Celestinus V]]
|-
| 52 || 193 || [[Paus Bonifasius VIII]] || [[Paus Bonifatius VIII]]
|-
| 53 || 195 || [[Paus Klemens V]] || [[Paus Clemens V]]
|-
| 54 || 198 || [[Paus Klemens VI]] || [[Paus Clemens VI]]
|-
| 55 || 199 || [[Paus Innosensius VI]] || [[Paus Innosentius VI]]
|-
| 56 || 203 || [[Paus Bonifasius IX]] || [[Paus Bonifatius IX]]
|-
| 57 || 204 || [[Paus Innosensius VII]] || [[Paus Innosentius VII]]
|-
| 58 || 209 || [[Paus Kallistus III]] || [[Paus Kallixtus III]]
|-
| 59 || 212 || [[Paus Siktus IV]] || [[Paus Sixtus IV]]
|-
| 60 || 214 || [[Paus Aleksander VI]] || [[Paus Alexander VI]]
|-
| 61 || 216 || [[Paus Julius II]] || [[Paus Yulius II]]
|-
| 62 || 219 || [[Paus Klemens VII]] || [[Paus Clemens VII]]
|-
| 63 || 221 || [[Paus Julius III]] || [[Paus Yulius III]]
|-
| 64 || 222 || [[Paus Marsellus II]] || [[Paus Marcellus II]]
|-
| 65 || 227 || [[Paus Siktus V]] || [[Paus Sixtus V]]
|-
| 66 || 230 || [[Paus Innosensius IX]] || [[Paus Innosentius IX]]
|-
| 67 || 231 || [[Paus Klemens VIII]] || [[Paus Clemens VIII]]
|-
| 68 || 236 || [[Paus Innosensius X]] || [[Paus Innosentius X]]
|-
| 69 || 237 || [[Paus Aleksander VII]] || [[Paus Alexander VII]]
|-
| 70 || 238 || [[Paus Klemens IX]] || [[Paus Clemens IX]]
|-
| 71 || 239 || [[Paus Klemens X]] || [[Paus Clemens X]]
|-
| 72 || 240 || [[Paus Innosensius XI]] || [[Paus Innosentius XI]]
|-
| 73 || 241 || [[Paus Aleksander VIII]] || [[Paus Alexander VIII]]
|-
| 74 || 243 || [[Paus Klemens XI]] || [[Paus Clemens XI]]
|-
| 75 || 244 || [[Paus Innosensius XIII]] || [[Paus Innosentius XIII]]
|-
| 76 || 246 || [[Paus Klemens XII]] || [[Paus Clemens XII]]
|-
| 77 || 248 || [[Paus Klemens XIII]] || [[Paus Clemens XIII]]
|-
| 78 || 249 || [[Paus Klemens XIV]] || [[Paus Clemens XIV]]
|} * kontribusi [[Pengguna:Andreas Erick|Andreas Erick]]
</div>
[[Pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|Leo]]<sup>[[Pembicaraan pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|••bicara••]]</sup> 13:07, 26 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
== Perlindungan ==
 
<table><td>Menurut [http://wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Istimewa:Halamandilindungi&namespace=0&type=edit&level=0&sizetype=min Halaman istimewa] halaman ini dilindungi, tapi kok waktu membuka [http://wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Daftar_Paus_Gereja_Katolik_Roma&action=edit halaman suntingannya] juga tertera "Tidak ditemukan entri log yang sesuai." Kenapa ya? (menurut [http://wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Daftar_Paus_Gereja_Katolik_Roma&action=history riwayat] dilindungi oleh Rinto Jiang 28 Mei 08) 10:39, 22 Mei 2009 (UTC) <small>[[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Bennylin|Hubungi:]]<br />[[Pengguna:Bennylin|Bennylin]]</small></td>
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Ya setuju, buatkan dulu tabelnya jadi bisa dilihat perbedaannya. [[User:Borgx|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Bold" color="#1F85FF">borgx</font>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Borgx|<font color="#003366">kirim pesan</font>]])</sup> 06:02, 24 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
 
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Berhubung agak susah bikin tabel di wikinya, dan saya belum sempat :(, jadi, saya ''upload'' dulu versi Excelnya. Di file ini terdapat perbandingan dengan versi GerejaKatolik.net. Bagi yang ''sempat'', tolong bisa dilihat dulu. Filenya adalah [[Berkas:Analisa untuk Daftar Paus.xls|Analisa untuk Daftar Paus.xls]] [[Gambar:Face-glasses.svg|24px]][[Pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|Leo]]<sup>[[Pembicaraan pengguna:Leo Cahyadi|••bicara••]]</sup> 11:40, 26 Oktober 2006 (UTC)
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