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Diskusi, dan bukan tindakan satu arah, adalah cara yang dianjurkan untuk [[Wikipedia:Penyusunan kebijakan|mengubah kebijakan]], dan juga merupakan mekanisme yang dianjurkan untuk mendemonstrasikan masalah terhadap suatu [[Wikipedia:Kebijakan dan pedoman|kebijakan]] atau cara penerapannya. Ini berarti bahwa seseorang yang tidak setuju dengan suatu kebijakan yang ada, tidak boleh mencoba untuk membuktikan bahwa kebijakan itu bermasalah dengan mencoba melakukannya di Wikipedia.
 
== Nyatakan maksud Anda dan jangan buktikan dengan eksperimen ==
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In the past, many contributors have found their [[m:Wikistress|Wikistress]] levels rising, particularly when an issue important to them has been handled unfairly in their view. The contributor may point out inconsistencies, perhaps citing other cases that have been handled differently. And the contributor may postulate: "What if everyone did that?"
 
(This neglects two important things about Wikipedia: it is inconsistent, and it tolerates things it does not condone. These are arguably not defects.)
 
In this situation, it is tempting to illustrate a point using either [[parody]] or some form of [[breaching experiment]]. For example, the contributor may apply the decision to other issues in a way that mirrors the policy they oppose. These activities are generally '''disruptive''': i.e., they require the vast majority of nonpartisan editors to clean up or revert the "proof".
 
In general, such edits are strongly opposed by those who believe them to be ineffective tools of persuasion. Many readers consider such techniques spiteful and unencyclopedic, as passers-by are caught in the crossfire of edits that are not made in [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good faith]], and which are designed to provoke outrage and opposition. As a general rule, points are best expressed directly in discussion, without irony or subterfuge. Direct statements are the best way to garner respect, agreement and [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]].-->
 
== Mempermainkan sistem ==
Mempermainkan sistem (''gaming the system'') maksudnya adalah menggunakan peraturan Wikipedia untuk "membantah" peraturan Wikipedia. Dalam kasus tertentu, mempermainankan sistem adalah salah satu cara "menganggu", misalnya. secara terang-terangan mengembalikan 3 kali setiap hari dalam satu artikel, dan menyatakan tidak ada yang dilanggar.
 
<!--==Gaming the system==
'''Gaming the system''' is the use of Wikipedia rules to thwart Wikipedia policy. In many cases, gaming the system is a form of [[Wikipedia:Disruption|disruption]], such as obstinately reverting an edit exactly three times a day, and then "innocently" maintaining that no rules are being violated. The [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] should not be construed as an entitlement to revert, and doing so is regarded as disruption. Doing this over a prolonged period of time leads to sanctions, and, in extreme cases, a permanent [[Wikipedia:Banning policy|ban]].-->
 
== Contoh-contoh ==
 
<!--==Examples==
*'''If''' somebody suggests that Wikipedia should become a majority-rule democratic community...
**'''do''' point out that it is entirely possible for Wikipedians to create [[Internet sock puppet|sock puppets]] and vote more than once.
**'''don't''' create seven sock puppets and have them all agree with you.
*'''If''' someone creates an article on what you believe to be a silly topic, and the community disagrees with your assessment on [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]] (AfD)...
**'''do''' make your case clearly on AfD, pointing to examples of articles that would be allowable under the rules the community is applying.
**'''don't''' create an article on an entirely silly topic just to get it listed on AfD.
*'''If''' someone lists one of your favourite articles on AfD and calls it ''silly'', and you believe that there are hundreds of sillier legitimate articles...
**'''do''' state your case on AfD in favour of the article.
**'''don't''' list hundreds of non-deletable articles on AfD in one day in order to try to save it.
*'''If''' an article you've nominated for deletion on AfD is not deleted...
**'''do''' reconsider whether your nomination was justified.
**'''don't''' frivolously nominate the same article for [[Wikipedia:Featured articles|featured article]] status.
*'''If''' someone deletes information about a person you consider to be important from an article, calling them ''unimportant''...
**'''do''' argue on the article's talk page for the person's inclusion, pointing out that other information about people is included in the article.
**'''don't''' delete all the information about every person from the article, calling it ''unimportant''.
*'''If''' you wish to change an existing procedure or guideline...
**'''do''' set up a discussion page and try to establish consensus
**'''don't''' push the existing rule to its limits in an attempt to prove it wrong, or nominate the existing rule for deletion
*'''If''' you're upset someone didn't follow process in making a change...
**'''do''' find out why they did it and attempt to convince them otherwise
**'''don't''' reverse an arguably good change for no reason other than "out of process"
 
Egregious disruption of any kind is blockable by any administrator — for up to one month in the case of repeat offenses that are highly disruptive. Editors involved in [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|arbitration]] are likely to find that violating the spirit of this guideline may prejudice the decision of the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]]. See [[Wikipedia:Arbitration policy/Precedents ]] for examples of the Committee's views on various types of disruptive behavior.
 
Sumber: http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point&oldid=102650239-->
 
== Catatan tambahan ==
Baris 51 ⟶ 9:
Sehubungan dengan hal yang dibahas di sini, jangan mencoba untuk memasukkan informasi palsu ke dalam Wikipedia untuk menguji kemampuan Wikipedia untuk melacak dan menghilangkannya. Hal ini akan membuang waktu semua orang, termasuk Anda. Lihat [[Wikipedia:Hoax]].
 
Jangan pula mencoba untuk memberikan definisi baru mengenai bentuk [[Wikipedia:vandalismeVandalisme|vandalisme]], karena hal tersebut malah akan memberikan ide tersebut bagi para pelaku.
 
== Lihat pula ==
* [[Wikipedia:Suntingan yang mengacaukan]]
* [[Wikipedia:Pemastian]]
* [[Wikipedia:Sudut pandang netral]]
* [[de:Wikipedia:BitteBukan nichtriset störenasli]]
 
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[[ar:ويكيبيديا:لا تعرقل ويكيبيديا لتثبت وجهة نظرك]]
[[cs:Wikipedie:Nenarušujte encyklopedii kvůli ilustraci tvrzení]]
[[de:Wikipedia:Bitte nicht stören]]
[[en:Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point]]
[[eo:Vikipedio:Ne ĝenu Vikipedion por pruvi vidpunkton]]
[[es:Wikipedia:No sabotees la Wikipedia para respaldar tus argumentos]]
[[fa:ویکی‌پدیا:برای بیان دیدگاه خود اخلال‌گری نکنید]]
[[fi:Wikipedia:Älä häiriköi esittääksesi kantasi]]
[[fr:Wikipédia:Ne pas désorganiser Wikipédia pour une argumentation personnelle]]
[[gl:Wikipedia:Non sabotee a Wikipedia para apoiar o seu punto de vista]]
[[he:ויקיפדיה:אל תגרמו למהומה כדי להדגיש עמדה]]
[[hr:Wikipedija:Ne ometajte rad Wikipedije da biste nešto dokazali]]
[[hu:Wikipédia:Ne kelts zavart demonstrációkkal!]]
[[it:Wikipedia:Non danneggiare Wikipedia per sostenere una tua opinione]]
[[ja:Wikipedia:腕ずくで解決しようとしない]]
[[lt:Vikipedija:Nepriveskite prie absurdo]]
[[ms:Wikipedia:Jangan rencatkan Wikipedia untuk menggambarkan pendapat]]
[[nl:Wikipedia:Verstoor Wikipedia niet om je standpunt kracht bij te zetten]]
[[no:Wikipedia:Ikke forstyrr Wikipedia for å få illustrere et poeng]]
[[pl:Wikipedia:Nie przeszkadzaj w pracy Wikipedii tylko po to, aby coś udowodnić]]
[[pt:Wikipedia:Não abuse da Wikipédia para provar um ponto de vista]]
[[ru:Википедия:Не доводите до абсурда]]
[[simple:Wikipedia:Do not make problems to prove something]]
[[sk:Wikipédia:Nenarušujte Wikipédiu kvôli ilustrácii tvrdenia]]
[[sr:Википедија:Не нарушавајте Википедију да бисте нешто доказали]]
[[sv:Wikipedia:Agera inte demonstrativt]]
[[tr:Vikipedi:Görüşlerinizi açıklamak için Vikipedi'yi aksatmayın]]
[[uk:Вікіпедія:Не доводьте до абсурду]]
[[zh:Wikipedia:不要為闡釋觀點而擾亂維基百科]]