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:''Diskusi di bawah adalah arsip dari [[Wikipedia:ProyekWiki penamaan negara, ibu kota dan bahasa|ProyekWiki penamaan negara, ibu kota dan bahasa]]. <span style="color:red">'''Jangan disunting lagi.'''</span> Komentar selanjutnya dapat diberikan di bagian baru di halaman pembicaraan artikel. Tidak boleh ada suntingan lagi bagian di halaman ini.''
== Turki atau Türkiye ? ==
yang mana yang benar untuk versi Indonesia ? kalau di artikel English Wikipedia itu tetap Turkey. dan juga saya melihat beberapa kali perang sunting/edit mengenai judul artikel ini [[Pengguna:Meabook|Meabook]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Meabook|bicara]]) 2 Oktober 2022 11.50 (UTC)
:Di [[KBBI]] masih disebut [[Turki]] loh, dan nama Türkiye belum memiliki '''status baku'''/'''tidak baku'''. Baca [https://kbbi.kemdikbud.go.id/entri/Turki entri KBBI] ini. [[Pengguna:RaFaDa20631|RaFaDa20631]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:RaFaDa20631|bicara]]) 2 Oktober 2022 12.07 (UTC)
::mungkin sebelum diubah alangkah baiknya di voting saja terlebih dahulu (seperti model Request Move) jadi jangan langsung pindah jika di beberapa pengguna masih perang edit. not good [[Pengguna:Meabook|Meabook]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Meabook|bicara]]) 2 Oktober 2022 12.45 (UTC)
:dan kenapa media Indonesia masih menyebutkan Turki di artikelnya setelah permintaan perubahan nama ke PBB? [[Pengguna:Meabook|Meabook]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Meabook|bicara]]) 2 Oktober 2022 12.42 (UTC)
::Perubahan nama negara, seharusnya tidak perlu voting di wikipedia. Isinya di artikel [[Turki]] sudah benar, disebut '''Turki''' atau '''Turkiye'''. Dan masalah penyebutan di media Indonesia, seharusnya tidak disangkutpautkan dengan Wikipedia, karena itu beda konteks. Ada orang yang belum biasa menyebut Turkiye, jadi masih menyebut Turki. Atau ada juga reporter atau pekerja media yang belum mengetahui perubahan itu, bisa jadi. Seperti nama [[Nur-Sultan]], di [[Kazakhstan]], yang diubah lagi menjadi [[Astana]] pada bulan lalu, ya diubah saja, gk perlu pake voting-voting setuju atau tidak. Di artikel bahasa Indonesia masih terjadi beberapa kali editan antara Turki dan Turkiye, tapi sudah benar dituliskan seperti di atas. Demikian. [[Pengguna:Herryz|Herryz]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Herryz|bicara]]) 2 Oktober 2022 13.01 (UTC)
Begini saja teman-teman, daripada kita capek-capek memikirkan pengubahan judulnya lebih baik disesuaikan dengan cara kita melafalkan suatu negara. Toh, pengucapan setiap negara berbeda-beda seperti Wikipedia Inggris masih menyebutnya dengan ''Turkey'', Wikipedia versi Turki menyebutnya ''Türkiye'' dan lainnya. Jadi bagaimana kalau kita tetap mempertahankan judulnya ''Turki'' sesuai dengan pelafalan umum kita? <span style="font-size:100%;font-family: 'Courier', monospace">[[User:Badak Jawa|{{Linear-gradient text| green | #020F8C | red | blue| direction = right | text ='''Si Badak'''}}]] <span style="color:green">Piye kabare? </span> [[User talk:Badak Jawa|'''<span style="font-size:100%;font-family: 'Cursive">{{Linear-gradient text| green | #020F8C | red | blue | direction = left | text = Welcome}}''']]</span> 2 Oktober 2022 13.28 (UTC)
Di Wikipedia Bahasa Indonesia, kita menganut [[WP:COMMONNAME]] dalam pedoman kita, di sini kita menggunakan '''istilah yang paling umum digunakan'''. Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia bahkan Bahasa Indonesia tidak wajib mengikuti permintaan suatu negara manapun, '''ingat''' kita negara merdeka dan kita punya aturan sendiri dan Wikipedia Bahasa Indonesia juga punya kebijakan sendiri.
Bisa dicek untuk:
* Turki: [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Turki%22&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo2&sxsrf=AJOqlzU5dzpc9CcOmxCllGITohq-Pd8P7A%3A1676506855041&ei=53btY8qWAsSDmgfH1K7ACg&oq=%22Turki%22&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyCAgAEIAEEMsBMggILhCxAxCABDIGCAAQBxAeMggIABCABBCxAzIGCAAQBxAeMggIABCABBDLATIKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzIJCAAQBxAeEPEEOgcIIxCwAxAnOgUIABCABEoECEEYAVChDFiZHmDpKGgAcAB4AIABoRCIAa8VkgELMC4xLjUtMS45LTGYAQCgAQHIAQHAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp per 2023-02-16 menghasilkan Sekitar 83.400.000 hasil (0,49 detik) ],sedangkan
* Turkiye: [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Turkiye%22&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo2&sxsrf=AJOqlzUrvs03hv_Ae21B3Mj8jHTk7K3xOQ:1676506957313&source=lnt&tbs=lr:lang_1id&lr=lang_id&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjEw52N45j9AhWu7XMBHdccA-EQpwV6BAgvEBY&biw=1121&bih=2091&dpr=2.75 menghasilkan Sekitar 5.460.000 hasil (0,42 detik) ]
Jelas, halaman Turki jauh lebih populer. Halaman Turki bisa dipindahkan ke Turkiye jika kata "Turkiye" sudah menjadi kata populer, setidaknya jika sudah sebanding popularitasnya dengan kata "Turki"- <font face="Viner Hand ITC">[[File:heiwa.png|40px|link=User:Ariyanto]] <span style="text-decoration:blink">[[User:Ariyanto|Ariyanto]] </span>[[File:Gartoon-Evolution.png|20px|link=user talk: Ariyanto]]</font> 16 Februari 2023 00.26 (UTC)
:{{Catatan}} Orang Turki menyebut negara kita dengan sebutan '''Endonezya ''' atau '''Endonezya Cumhuriyeti''', bukan '''REPUBLIK INDONESIA''' seperti nama resmi negara kita, jadi kenapa kita harus menyesuaikan dengan lidah mereka sementara mereka pun menyebut negara kita dengan "suka-suka lidah mereka"?- <font face="Viner Hand ITC">[[File:heiwa.png|40px|link=User:Ariyanto]] <span style="text-decoration:blink">[[User:Ariyanto|Ariyanto]] </span>[[File:Gartoon-Evolution.png|20px|link=user talk: Ariyanto]]</font> 16 Februari 2023 00.35 (UTC)
:''Diskusi di atas adalah arsip. <span style="color:red">'''Jangan disunting lagi.'''</span> Komentar selanjutnya dapat diberikan di bagian baru diberikan di halaman pembicaraan artikel. Tidak boleh ada suntingan lagi bagian di halaman ini.''</div>
== External links found that need fixing (Oktober 2023) ==
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*http://www.un.org/Overview/growth.htm is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20160117212320/http://www.un.org/Overview/growth.htm to the original URL.
*http://www.oecd.org/document/48/0,2340,en_2649_201185_1876912_1_1_1_1,00.html is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20060710174435/http://www.oecd.org/document/48/0,2340,en_2649_201185_1876912_1_1_1_1,00.html to the original URL.
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*https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61671913 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230108161335/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61671913 to the original URL.
*http://www.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/turkey.html is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20120329113052/http://www.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/turkey.html to the original URL.
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*http://www.un.org/Overview/growth.htm is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20160117212320/http://www.un.org/Overview/growth.htm to the original URL.
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*http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1021835.stm is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20170531111843/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1021835.stm to the original URL.
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*http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/world/europe/kurdish-rebel-group-to-withdraw-from-turkey.html?_r=0 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20140723062836/http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/world/europe/kurdish-rebel-group-to-withdraw-from-turkey.html?_r=0 to the original URL.
*http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22293966 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20130428034234/http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22293966 to the original URL.
*http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/europe/turkey-conflict-explainer/?hpt=hp_t1 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20171014001050/http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/europe/turkey-conflict-explainer/?hpt=hp_t1 to the original URL.
*http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1466160.stm is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20180707045403/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1466160.stm to the original URL.
*http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2850601.stm is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20180707042827/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2850601.stm to the original URL.
*https://books.google.com/books?id=iOoGH4GckQgC&pg=PA357 is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20230117224558/https://books.google.com/books?id=iOoGH4GckQgC&pg=PA357 to the original URL.
*http://www.turkstat.gov.tr/PreIstatistikTablo.do?istab_id=242 is considered to be dead, however has been found to be alive. Recommend removing the dead flag from the URL.
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== Permintaan penyuntingan halaman dilindungi sebagian pada 29 Februari 2024 ==
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"Ubah wakil presiden Fuat Oktay menjadi Cevdet Yılmaz"[[Pengguna:Masnoppp|Masnoppp]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Masnoppp|bicara]]) 29 Februari 2024 07.31 (UTC)
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== External links found that need fixing (Juli 2024) ==
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== External links found that need fixing (November 2024) ==
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