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Hi welcome to the Indonesian Wikipedia! Are you Polish and do you speak Indonesian? Well nice to see you around here anyway. I think Poles are a nice Central or Eastern people. Especially when I compare Poles with the sometimes arrogant Czechs ..., not that I don't like them on the contrary. They are just not as friendly as Poles. I hope you are not a Czech ;-) [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 10:25, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Hello, i answer in German (i saw you understand German and my English is poor) :-) Ja, ich bin Pole und kein Tscheche :-), danke für die netten worte uber meine Landsleute :-) Vieleicht uberrascht dich das, aber ich kann kein Indonesich, ich habe mir die worter in anderen artikeln in Indonesischer Sprache herausgesucht - ich hoffe ich habe keine Fehler gemacht :-) In Indonesien leben auch Polen, schade das keiner von ihnen den weg nach Wikipedia fand, um hier mehr informationen uber Polen zu schreiben :-) Gibt es ein worterbuch Indonesich-English oder Indonesich-Deutsch im internet? Dann konnte ich versuchen noch mehr grund-informationen im Artikel Polen zu schreiben. Du kannst mir auf Englisch anworten ich verstehe alles, ich kann nur schlecht selbst auch English schreiben :-)--[[Pengguna:Polska|Polska]] 14:06, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:Okay I'll answer in English then, as my German is poor ;-) But my Dutch is much better! Well Czechs are sometimes arrogant and annoying but I must admit they can play soccer very well! They have so far the best team in the EC 2004 in Portugal, the only one that never lost or tied ;-)
:Yes indeed I was rather surprised that you can alter Indonesians text without knowing the language :-) You must be able to recognise patterns well. Luckily Indonesian doesn't have any cases, so it is fairly easy to learn ;-)
:The Bleszinsky family is the most famous Polish family in Indonesia. There are at least three movie stars coming from this family: Marek, Theresia and Tamara. The father of this three persons was a naturalised Polish while the mother is Indonesian (I think Sundanese). He recently passed away (some two years ago).
:You can try www.google.com to find German-Indonesian and English-Indonesian dictionaries. I found quite a few.
:I'm also interested in Polish history and especially the relationship between Germans and Poles. I think this is a love-hate relationship. Many Germans are of Polish (or other Slavic) descent, but they tend to deny it. It reminds me of the relationships between some peoples in Indonesia.
:Well see you later! [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 21:56, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
::Das ist schon witzig, ich bin Pole schreibe auf Deutsch weil ich Englisch schlecht schreiben kann, Du bist Indonesier antwortest mir in Englisch weil Du schlecht Deutsch schreiben kannst :-)
::Das stimmt Tschechen haben eine gute Mannschaft - ich bin fur die ''Oranjes'', die Hollender spielen tollen fussball, es macht spass die spiele anzusehen, weil immer viele tore fallen.
::Interessant was Du uber Blaszinskys geschrieben hast, kannte sie nicht vorher. In Polen kennt man Indonesien meist als wunderschones Land, das tolle ist das Indonesien auf so vielen Inseln lieget - Polen hat glaube ich nur 3, 4 kleine mini Inseln im Baltikum :-)
::Du hast Recht das verhaltnis zwischen Polen und Deutschen ist kompliziert, (die Deutschen sind auch ein bisschen arrogant ;-)) und das stimmt, sie sind stark mit Polen und Slawen vermischt (insbesondere mit den West-Slawen die in Ost-Deutschland gewohnt haben), und wie Du recht bemerkt hast, wollen sie das nicht wahrhaben - wir waren 300 jahre Todfeinde, vieleicht wird das verhaltnis in 50 oder 100 jahren besser ;-).
::Ich habe uber den Ost-Timor konflikt gehort - ich glaube aber das der konflikt schon gelost ist oder irre ich mich? Burgerkriege sind immer blutig :-/. In Polen hatten wir auch einen im jahre 1648--[[Pengguna:Polska|Polska]] 13:26, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Halo, wenn du Indonesich-English oder Indonesich-Deutsch worterbuch brauchst, vielleicht http://www.jot.de/kamus/ ist gut genug. Ansonsten frag mich einfach. Viel Spass!!
[[Pengguna:Ariya|Ariya]] 23:00, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:Danke, ich werde auf dein Angebot zuruckkommen :-)--[[Pengguna:Polska|Polska]] 13:26, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Well, the East-Timor conflict is not yet wholly solved. Although the area has become independent, there are still some (minor) problems with Indonesia. These problems concern the properties of Indonesians in East-Timor and smuggling between Indonesia and the now independent territory. The East-Timorese are also sueing Wiranto, a former Indonesian general. The problem is: Wiranto is a president candidate who will run for election next July the 5th ... Oh one more thing, what is a province in Polish? Is it called a voivodship in English? Can you tell me the correct Polish word please? Well bye ;-) [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 23:30, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:Ich habe gesehen das in der polnischen version uber Indonesien wenig informationen gibt, werde in den nachsten tagen den Artikel uber Indonesien ausbauen :-)
:Ja auf Englisch Voivodship auf Polnisch Wojewodztwo (mit polnischen buchstaben Województwo)
:Die aufteilung sieht so aus: Wojewodztwo - Powiat - Gmina. Also jede Wojewodztwo ist in Powiat´s aufgetailt, die wiederum sind in Gmina´s aufgeteilt.--[[Pengguna:Polska|Polska]] 13:51, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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Ich arbeite grade am Artikel über Indonesien auf der polnischen WIKI. Wie sieht die Aufteilung in Indonesien aus? Prowinz - ? - ?
http://pl.wiki-indonesia.club/wiki/Indonezja--[[Pengguna:Polska|Polska]] 15:11, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
:Indonesia is divided in several so called "Daerah Tingkat I (satu)", which roughly can be translated as "First Level Regions". Not all them are "provinces" though. There are two more less autonomous areas, and the capital city [[Jakarta]], which is treated as a province and is called a special territory. The rest are 'ordinary' provinces. These are called [[provinsi]] or propinsi. The former is the official spelling.
:Then each province is divided in several rural and urban districts, which are both "Daerah TIngkat II (dua)" or "Second Level Regions". The rural districts are called "[[kabupaten]]" and the urban districts are called [[kotamadya]] or kota otonom. The kabupaten is usually translated as "regency" in English, while kotamadya is translated as "municipality".
:Furthermore each district is divided in several sub-districts which are called "kecamatan". Each kecamatan, in turn is divided in several kelurahan (in urban areas) or desa (in rural areas). A kelurahan can be translated as "commune", while desa is usually translated as "village". Then each kelurahan is divided in several Rukun Warga (RW) (neighbourhood) which in turn is divided in several Rukun Tetangga (RT) ('street'). A desa is divided in several dusun, and each dusun is divided in several dukuh.
:The first and second level regions do have representatives in a local parlement ([[DPRD]]).
:So in brief Indonesia is divided as follow
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:Provinsi - Kabupaten/Kotamadya - Kecamatan - Kelurahan/Desa - RW/Dusun - RT/Dukuh.
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:So there are six levels of administrative divisions. I hope this was clear. You can ask again in any case it wasn't clear. Bye [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 00:23, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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Sorbian
Can you tell me whether Sorbian is closer to Polish or Czech? Sorbian spelling surely resembles Czech spelling. [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 12:03, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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