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== Norodom Sihanouk ==
Pak Harto mirip Norodom Sihanouk 'nggak?
 
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Huahahah iya juga [[Pengguna:Hayabusa future|Hayabusa future]] 01:52, 8 Mei 2005 (UTC)
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:Ya saya setuju, memang artikel ini masih banyak kekurangannya. Jasa-jasa pak Harto masih kurang diperhatikan. [[Pengguna:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]] 21:44, 3 Februari 2006 (UTC)
 
 
Nama Titiek dan Mamiek bukan nama resmi. Tolong cantumkan nama resmi mereka. Terimakasih.
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Bila memang nantinya akan diedit untuk memasukan Jasa-jasanya, saya kira tidak perlu menghapus nilai-nilai kekurangannya juga. Karena memang tingkat kekerasan politik pada jaman Soeharto sangat tinggi dan akan menjadi sejarah yang tidak seimbang kalau halaman ini ditulis ulang dengan menghilangkan semua kejahatan beliau. <sup>Pendapat tak bertandatangan ini ditulis oleh [[Istimewa:Kontribusi_pengguna/124.81.36.114|124.81.36.114]] ditambahkan oleh [[Istimewa:Kontribusi pengguna/125.163.72.188|125.163.72.188]] 02:02, 21 Februari 2008 (UTC)</sup>
 
:Tentu tidak. Namun segala yang tidak ada referensinya atau disangsikan referensinya akan dihapus (lihat [[WP:NOR]]). Selain itu sampai sekarang juga masih belum seimbang. Harusnya kan ''[[WP:NPOV|NPOV]]''. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 10:21, 24 Maret 2008 (UTC)
 
==Templat taknetral==
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:#Saya menghapus komentar di bawah subbagian ini karena tidak ada hubungannya dengan pengembangan artikel.
:#Saat ini kriteria artikel bagus utama sedang digodok dan mendekati tahap akhir, yaitu ratifikasi oleh pengguna Wikipedia. Karena itu di masa yang akan datang artikel seperti ini kalau mau diberi status featured harus dilengkapi rujukan terpercayatepercaya dan tanpa original research. Saya baru menambahkan kedua tag itu ke artikel ini, mungkin juga perlu diberi tambahan tag {{tl|taknetral}} tapi untuk sementara saya rasa cukup dua itu dulu, karena taknetral sudah tercakup dalam OR dan rasanya tidak perlu membuat halaman penuh dengan berbagai tag/templat yang redundant. --[[Pengguna:Quoth nevermore|Quoth nevermore]] 13:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 
Wah isinya masih jelek sekali yah, berantakan dan ngga runut. Seharusnya artikel pilihannya di "cabut" dulu. Maluw donks, tapi siapa yang mau benerin yah? Harus riset intensif nih biar netral. [[Pengguna:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:26, 31 Januari 2008 (UTC)
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::Status AP bias dicabut seperti di [[:en:Wikipedia:Former featured articles]], sayangnya di sini belum ada halamannya.. usul saya, gimana kalo divote di halaman pembicaraan utk sementara? <span style="border:1px solid #808;padding:1px;">[[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Mimihitam|<font style="color:#fff;background:#ccc;">'''&nbsp;Mimihitam&nbsp;'''</font><font style="color:#ff0000;background:#000000;">'''&nbsp;&nbsp;Bicara&nbsp;'''</font>]] </span> 15:31, 31 Januari 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Ejaan ==
Moehammad Soeharto? Nama depan Muhammad kan baru didapat setelah naik haji, pasca-1972 (sudah pakai EYD). Seharusnya Muhammad Soeharto. Memang jadinya tidak konsisten sih, setengah EYD setengah Van Ophuijsen :) [[Pengguna:Gombang|Gombang]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Gombang|bicara]]) 12:49, 5 Februari 2009 (UTC)
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== Hello Indonesian Users ==
 
Greetings from Germany. What do you think about this (from de.wiki): "Haji Mohamed Suharto (nach alter Orthographie Soeharto), (* 8. Juni 1921 in Kemusuk bei Argamulya auf Java, Indonesien; † 27. Januar 2008 in Jakarta)" The German Wikipedia uses genrally the Christian symbol "*" which stands for your "lahir di" and the Christian cross "†" for your "meninggal di". Would be that okay for you, if Christian symbol are used when referring to Suharto's life data (and those of other Moslem personalities)? Selamat datang and greetings dari negara Jermany --[[Pengguna:Sukarnobhumibol|Sukarnobhumibol]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Sukarnobhumibol|bicara]]) 03:50, 4 Mei 2010 (UTC)
 
:I don't mind. Indonesia is a free and liberal country, it has [[Pancasila]] as state ideology. Christians in Indonesia for example also use 'Islamic' terminologies. It is common to call God 'Allah' and other things. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 07:44, 4 Mei 2010 (UTC)
 
== Noref ==
 
Padahal merupakan sebuah bagian yang penting; tapi sayang, bagian [[Soeharto#Naik ke kekuasaan|Naik ke kekuasaan]] ini noref dan bahkan [[WP:NETRAL|dipertentangkan kenetralannya]]. Hanya ada satu referensi yang saya temukan, yaitu dari web ''Okezone'', menyebabkan bagian ini tidak netral karena hanya berpihak berdasarkan referensi tersebut (dan referensi sepihak orde baru).
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Setelah sekian lama, masih Belum ada pengembangan kah? ▪ <sup>[[Indonesia|꧋]][[Suku Jawa|ꦩ]][[Suku Banjar|ꦣ]][[Dayak Ngaju|ꦪ]]</sup> '''''[[Pengguna:Fazoffic| <span style="color:#3D6D69;">Fazoffic</span>]]''''' <sub>([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Fazoffic|<span style="color:#0055FF;"> ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ</span>]])</sub> 11 Agustus 2022 10.50 (UTC)
 
:@{{U|Meursault2004}}, @{{u|Gombang}}, @{{u|Hariadhi}}, @{{u|Mimihitam}}, @{{u|Serenity}}, @{{u|Ciko}}, @{{u|Rintojiang}}, {{ping|Hayabusa future}} Setelah sekian tahun, masih belum ada pengembangan kah untuk bagian ini? Padahala menurut saya, referensi untuk bagian ini cukuo banyak tersedia. ▪ <sup>[[Indonesia|꧋]][[Suku Jawa|ꦩ]][[Suku Banjar|ꦣ]][[Dayak Ngaju|ꦪ]]</sup> '''''[[Pengguna:Fazoffic| <span style="color:#3D6D69;">Fazoffic</span>]]''''' <sub>([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Fazoffic|<span style="color:#0055FF;"> ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ</span>]])</sub> 11 Agustus 2022 10.57 (UTC)
::Mungkin belum ada yang mau mengembangkan. Saya tidak termasuk yang tertarik. [[Pengguna:Gombang|Gombang]] ([[Pembicaraan Pengguna:Gombang|bicara]]) 18 Agustus 2022 12.19 (UTC)
 
== External links found that need fixing (Oktober 2023) ==
 
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== External links found that need fixing (Februari 2024) ==
 
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*https://www.antarafoto.com/id/view/1975653/presiden-soeharto-terima-utusan-khusus-sultan-brunei-darussalam is found to be dead. Recommend adding https://web.archive.org/web/20240206165937/https://www.antarafoto.com/id/view/1975653/presiden-soeharto-terima-utusan-khusus-sultan-brunei-darussalam to the original URL.
 
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== External links found that need fixing (Juli 2024) ==
 
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