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===NO problematic conduct other than Tenmei===
[[User:jayvdb|John Vandenberg]] concludes [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Proposed_decision&diff=294878879&oldid=294874165 here] "there are no specific findings of problematic user conduct for the parties other than Tenmei." The short sentence leaves me wrongly battered as [[User:jayvdb|John Vandenberg]] joins [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer diablo]] in casting me in an undeserved role.
No.
[[User:jayvdb|John Vandenberg]] marginalizes the quiet fact that, in the face of extraordinary provocation, I complied with one very simple instruction on the evidence page: "Stay focused on the issues raised." For this, is it seemly for ArbCom to conclude that somehow I deserve added condemnation? No.
[[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]]'s edit history establishes a context of which I was largely unaware until [[User:Jayvdb]]'s proposal [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Proposed_decision&diff=294880293&oldid=294878956 here] motivated me to investigate with more diligence. It is fair to characterize this history as a series of battles interspersed with occasional work on articles. The thrust of his/her contributions are encapsulated in the following:
* [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] explains [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=prev&oldid=161120593 here]: "... the category of the anti-Japanese sentiments in Korean is existing prior and was created by Japanese. The category , anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea by myself is to intend to equofiy the viewpoint in the two sides. FYI, <u>my sentiment toward Japanse is originated by the Japanses in English and Korean Wiki</u>." -- 14:25, 29 '''September 2007''' [emphasis added]
* [[User:JALockhart|JALockhart]] explains [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=prev&oldid=182659948 here]: "Regardless of whether you are right or wrong, you are making yourself look very foolish and immature with your edit summaries—especially your accusations of bad faith and uncivilty, since your own comments appear rather belligerent and uncivil. Your invocation of Wikipedia policies also appears rather disingenuous, so I suggest that you desist with the inflammatory comments and not engage in inflammatory exchanges—to English speakers, they look very childish. Instead, just stick to facts and ignore provocations. Please remember also that <u>Wikipedia is not a forum for carrying out battles over national pride</u>." -- 03:00, '''7 January 2008''' [emphasis added]
See also:
*'''March 2008''' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=195045380#Appletrees_is_abusing_the_system link], WP:AN/IncidentArchive#Appletrees is abusing the system
*'''March 2008''' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive380&oldid=197215874 link], WP:AN/IncidentArchive380#Long time abusing Wikipedia by Japanese editors from 2channel meat/sock puppets
*'''June 2008''' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=User:Caspian_blue/Watchlist_of_Japanese_2channel&oldid=218484842 link], [[User:Caspian blue/Watchlist of Japanese 2channel]]
*'''July 2008''' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-07-25_Comfort_women&oldid=229415117#Who_are_the_involved_parties.3F link], WP:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-07-25 Comfort women
*'''August 2008''' [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive460&oldid=273296729#User:Sennen_goroshi.27s_stalking_and_disruption diff] WP:AN/IncidentArchive460#User Sennen goroshi's stalking and disruption
*'''January 2009''' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive510&oldid=267625374#Sennen_goroshi_Caspian_Blue link], Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive510#Sennen goroshi Caspian blue
::<u>Related block</u>: [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=167457357&oldid=167452031 diff]-- 17:07, 27 '''October 2007'''
I'm just one amongst many who have been been singled out by [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] across a span of years; but in this venue, my restraint earns rebuke as a novel and stunningly perverse reward.
===Anti-Japanese bias===
An odd [[backstory]] affects the proposed decision; but it has nothing to do with 7th-8th century central Asia nor with the locus of dispute or scope of this case as I understood it before now.
[[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] and others have determined that I am Japanese, despite the fact that I have avoided self-labeling in terms of nationality, gender, marital status, etc. I gather that [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] has endured a number of caustic disputes with anonymous contributors and sockpuppets; and many of these were seen to have originated in Japan. [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] is Korean; and aggrieved complaints about perceived anti-Korean bias are commonplace, not only involving those like me with perceived or actual Japanese backgrounds.
As ''[[ipso facto]]'' "evidence" of my [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Evidence&oldid=293791056#Tenmei.27s_long-term_harassment "long-term harassment"], [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] alleges [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Evidence&diff=next&oldid=286227382 here] that in 2008 "Tenmei ... attacked my ethnicity and taunted my ancestors ...." Inexplicably, [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]]'s 2008 complaint at [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive471&oldid=236967153#User:Tenmei.27s_abusing_AfD_and_personal_attacks WP:AN/IncidentArchive471#User:Tenmei's abusing AfD and personal attacks] did <u>not</u> encompass this specific claim ... which demonstrates that it simply didn't happen. In today's context, [[User:Teeninvester|Teeninvestor]]'s uncritical acceptance of every accusation doesn't change this fundamental reality ... although it aparently makes unjustified innuendo seem more palatable.
This one example suggests complicated [[subtext]]s affecting a broad [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/wiki/Tranche tranche] of wiki-edits.
===Harassment===
[[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] is not a victim of harassment; rather, it's the other way around.
* [[User:Amagase|Amagase]] is wrongly denigrated with [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=201271896&oldid=201268029 "harassment"] claim -- 07:24, 27 '''March 2008'''
:* BLOCK: 06:53, 27 March 2008 [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Future Perfect at Sunrise]] blocked [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 31 hours (''disruption on [[Fraud]], harassment of [[User:Amagase]]'')
* [[User:Roux|Roux]] is wrongly denigrated with [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=280872552 "harassment"] claim -- 15:06, '''31 March 2009'''
:* BLOCK: 01:13, 1 April 2009 [[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] blocked [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 24 hours (''[[Personal attacks]]'' or ''[[harassment]]'': harrassment of [[User:Roux]]'')
* [[User:Tenmei|Tenmei]] is wrongly denigrated with [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Tang_Dynasty/Evidence&diff=286145761&oldid=285932067 "harassment"] claim -- 01:16, 26 April 2009
===Bottom line ===
No. This travesty becomes ArbCom's nadir -- wrong in all the ways that matter. --~~~~
was barely tolerable a week or so ago, and now it has evolved beyond my ability to characterize neatly. If this is the way this ArbCom case is going to lean, I need the opportunity to participate in the case ... but first, I have to ask, what happened to the issues which were identified at the outset?
Who's kidding who?
In detailing what happened to [[User:Roux|Roux]], I identify a pattern similar to that which afflicts me in this venue. The [[backstory]] of what [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] too casually labels as harassment by [[User:Roux|Roux]] began at [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-11-06_Woo_Jang-choon&oldid=260338957 WP:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-11-06 Woo Jang-choon] in November 2008. I followed developments in this case in hopes that I'd be able to identify a more effective strategy for dealing with [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] in the past and in the future.
[[User:Roux|Roux]] intiated a mediation process [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-11-06_Woo_Jang-choon&diff=prev&oldid=251203832 diff], and his first step was to establish unremarkable ground rules. [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]]'s increasingly aggrieved objections to each and every diff made any progress impossible -- ''see'' thread [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-11-06_Woo_Jang-choon&oldid=251436211#Discussion here]. [[User:Roux|Roux]] withdrew from the case and, for a short time, he also withdrew from participating in Wikipedia.
From this fragmentary exchange, [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] contrived an illusory backstory of unspecified conflict. It is likely that no one other than me knows the explicit self-fulfilling nature of what [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] identifies as "antipathy;" and I have to wonder how likely it is that readers of this thread will have actually examined.
When both [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] and [[User:Roux|Roux]] were participants in the same thread, [[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]] would allude to a past history in of conflict. For redundant unequivocal clarity, it is necessary to scan the thread in which this so-called dispute is seen as naught but a self-fulfilling proposition -- ''see'' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-11-06_Woo_Jang-choon&oldid=251436211#Discussion here]. This tactical comment was intended to devalue [[User:Roux|Roux]]'s credibility and to discourage [[User:Roux|Roux]]'s from participating at all. I had observed this same pattern again and again with other editors, but in this specific instance involving [[User:Roux|Roux]], I knew the details of the so-called conflict -- ''see'' [http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=267050176 here].
[[User:Roux|Roux]]'s constructive [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive520&oldid=276694093#Proposed_solution Proposed solution] at [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive520&oldid=276694093#Sock_puppet_accusations_by_User:Rjecina Sock puppet accusations by User:Rjecina].
This is the first contribution to this dispute thread:
::'''Oppose''' Here you go again, Roux. You're not "we" or a delegate of Wikipedia. I'm not tired of the issue brought up so would others be. I see your typical habit of using the bare and unconstructive expression like "sick of" and proposing a drastic suggestion not actually solving the core problem. You're quite good at inflating the issue into a drama as always. Besides, this issue is more fit to RFC first before such making the drastic decision. I don't want to see another victims by your more harsh private probation than any ArBCom probation. Since you've heard a lot "do not act like an admin" (not in a good aspect), so don't.--Caspian blue 18:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::Grow up. //roux 18:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't be childish--Caspian blue 18:20, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Comment on the content of the proposal, and not your antipathy towards me. I expect you to remove your personal comments as they are entirely inappropriate. //roux 18:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Given your "so mature" response like "Grow up" to the criticism, I see your mention of the "antipathy towards me" is quite contradictory as always. Bear the valid criticism on your uncivil attitude since you heavily criticize the two users. Do not give a stress to any users who seek an "administrative" help from the board. Here is a place for helping and resolving problems, not making a more drama. I clearly said I oppose your proposal because that drastic method does not help the problem. Read it again as not projecting "your antipathy towards me". And refrain from exaggerating your "own feeling" as "we".--Caspian blue 18:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Comment on the content of the proposal, and not your antipathy towards me. I expect you to remove your personal comments as they are entirely inappropriate.//roux 18:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I find this a fairly reasonable proposal. Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
[[User:Caspian blue|Caspian blue]], a/k/a [[User:Appletrees|Apletrees]] ([https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=218484862&oldid=206367841 diff]), is a long-term warrior. It is hard to summarize a complex attack pattern succinctly, but it is an theatrical act -- a performance honed across years.
ArbCom is correct in anticipating future difficulties; but a [[risk aversion]] strategy has proven inadequate. [[User:Roux|Roux]] was the volunteer.
====3RR as wiki-weapon====
* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=172979110&oldid=172443132 diff] Nov 2007, Sennen Goroshi
====Blocks====
* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=167457357&oldid=167452031 diff]-- 17:07, 27 '''October 2007'''
* [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=176658406&oldid=176657319 diff] -- 23:18, 8 '''December 2007'''
====Mediation====
* [[User:WBJscribe|WBJscribe]], [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue/Archive_4&diff=185435706&oldid=185424491 diff], 15:30, 19 January 2008
* Pierre Bérégovoy
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I will link to a few incidents establishing a prior record of abusive behavior with multiple other editors:
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* June 2008
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive431#Caspian_Blue IncidentArchive431#Caspian_Blue]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive432#Edit_warring_.28repeated_blanking_of_sourced_text.29_by_User:Caspian_blue_at_Seolleongtang IncidentArchive432#Edit_warring_.28repeated_blanking_of_sourced_text.29_by_User:Caspian_blue_at_Seolleongtang]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive433#User:Caspian_blue IncidentArchive433#User:Caspian_blue]
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* August 2008
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive460#User:Sennen_goroshi.27s_stalking_and_disruption IncidentArchive460#User:Sennen_goroshi.27s_stalking_and_disruption]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Caspian_blue IncidentArchive470#Caspian_blue]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive471#User:Tenmei.27s_abusing_AfD_and_personal_attacks IncidentArchive471#User:Tenmei.27s_abusing_AfD_and_personal_attacks]
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* October 2008
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive485#User:Nihonjoe.27s_bad_faith_behaviors IncidentArchive485#User:Nihonjoe.27s_bad_faith_behaviors]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive487#User:_Caspian_blue IncidentArchive487#User:_Caspian_blue]
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* November 2008
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive490#Block.2FUnblock.2C_Caspian_Blue.2C_AIV_reports.2C_copyrighted_material..._am_i_missing_anything.3F IncidentArchive490#Block.2FUnblock.2C_Caspian_Blue.2C_AIV_reports.2C_copyrighted_material..._am_i_missing_anything.3F]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive495#hijacked_RfC IncidentArchive495#hijacked_RfC]
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* December 2008
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive496#Edit_warring_at_Koreans IncidentArchive496#Edit_warring_at_Koreans]
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive499#User:Caspian_blue_continued_false_accusations.2C_misrepresentations_and_personal_attacks IncidentArchive499#User:Caspian_blue_continued_false_accusations.2C_misrepresentations_and_personal_attacks]
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* January 2009
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive510#Sennen_goroshi_Caspian_Blue IncidentArchive510#Sennen_goroshi_Caspian_Blue]
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* March 2009
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** [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive520#Sock_puppet_accusations_by_User:Rjecina IncidentArchive520#Sock_puppet_accusations_by_User:Rjecina]
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This took about 20 min with the noticeboard search function, ruling out cases where CB was not a party (just commented) and those where he was filing a case and clearly didn't use abusive behavior in filing the complaint, leaving about half of the cases he filed or were filed against him.
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There are greater and lesser transgressions among those sets - some are far worse than others - but this type of pattern of repeat offense and repeatedly coming back before the ANI and AN noticeboards and repeatedly coming into massive scale conflict with multiple other editors are all highly problematic. I don't think anyone has tried to pull this all together so far - assuming CB was an irritation to be politely reminded again to be polite and AGF when he pops up every few weeks. But the scope and scale of the problem, now that I have put it together, is extremely disturbing. We have indefinitely blocked people for far less disruption and far fewer personal attacks than the incidents above demonstrate.
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[[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] ([http://en.wiki-indonesia.club/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Caspian_blue&diff=281036957&oldid=281008909 diff]) 07:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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