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[[palaestra]] di Taureas, yaitu sebuah sekolah gulat di mana anak-anak laki-laki biasa berkumpul. Dengan bantuan [[Chaerephon]], yang mendorongnya mengenai detil pertempuran tersebut, Sokrates mendekati [[Kritias]] dan bertanya kepadanya tentang urusan rumah, keadaan filsafat terkini, dan apakah ada anak laki-laki yang membedakan dirinya untuk kebijaksanaan atau keindahan, atau keduanya. Kritias menjawab bahwa Sokrates akan segera mengenal keindahannya secara langsung, karena [[Xarmides]] dan rombongannya baru saja tiba.
<!--Critias tells Socrates that Charmides is his cousin, son of his uncle Glaucon. Chaerephon rushes over and asks Socrates if the boy is not beautiful, and Socrates agrees. Chaerephon says suggestively that if Socrates could see his naked form, he would forget all about his handsome face. Socrates says all this will be good and well if the boy also has a noble soul. Socrates tells Critias that before they look at his body, they will ask the boy to strip and show them his soul.
Charmides was [[Plato]]'s uncle, his mother's brother. [[Critias]], Socrates' other interlocutor, was Charmides' first cousin, making Plato Critias' first cousin once removed. Both Critias and Charmides went on to become important members of the [[Thirty Tyrants]], the short-lived oligarchic regime that was established following Athenian defeat in the [[Peloponnesian War]] in 404 BCE, making the question of their ''[[sophrosyne]]'', or moderation, alternatively ironic or pressing.--!>
== Struggle to define ==
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