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Minta bantuan

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Halo, mas? Apakah anda sedang sibuk?

Saya sudah meng-upload berkas tulisan Ramayana yang sudah diperbaiki, tapi ketika sudah berhasil di-upload, berkasnya tampak biasa-biasa saja, seperti tidak ada perubahan. Huruf na tidak mau berubah menjadi nna. Mudah-mudahan saja ini efek sesaat.

Mengenai terjemahannya, sudahkah selesai? Jika sudah, terjemahan itu akan saya gunakan untuk merampungkan artikel Ganesa, biar jadi artikel pilihan.

-- Adiputra बिचर -- 08:39, 10 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Terjemahan

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Mohon bantuan : terjemahan yang tepat untuk "Huidig aantal deelnames op rij" (dari bhs. Belanda) kira - kira apa ? Terima kasih. Albertus Aditya 11:17, 11 Juli 2008 (UTC)

don't ya love it when Americans notice your wiki

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Seen the crap that just happened? What link should I offer?

How about a rollback bit for next time? Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:45, 12 Juli 2008 (UTC)

addendum; Do not visit any url grawp posts; malware may attack your machines. All of those edits should really be deleted from the history of the pages, starting with my user and talk pages. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:26, 12 Juli 2008 (UTC)

It is standard on en:wp to delete every single edit grawp makes from page histories. They delete all of his user and talk page, categories, etc. The accounts you renamed were already globally blocked; such names get flat-out hidden after a bit, the idea being not to just move things to some other log. I have a few other comments to make — email, soon. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:03, 13 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Re:Halaman Utama Wikipedia Bahasa Jawa

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Sorry bos, gw cuma bisa online wiki 1 bulan sekali. Kemarin liat pesan dari lu cuma bisa baca 2 menit tapi ga bisa balas, lagi banyak tugas. Udah diperbaiki icon-iconnya? Hariadhi - Ngobrol 11:25, 13 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Password Hilang

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Mas Mersault, dulu saya daftar pake alamat email misdianto@gmail.com namun karena alamat email itu sudah kena hack, aku jadinya gak bisa masuk lagi. Masalahnya aku lupa dengan passwordku di wikipedia Indonesia sehingga aku gak bisa nerusin tulisanku di http://wiki-indonesia.club/wiki/Petualangan_Tintin

Bisa bantu Mas untuk dapetin passwordku lagi? Bisa diemail ke alamatku yang baru di mokhammad.misdianto@gmail.com atau misdianto@gmail.com

Makasih sebelumnya Mas. Semoga betah di Leiden. Aku dulu tinggal disana tahun 1999 - 2000 buat selesaikan kuliah S2ku di bidang IT

Terima kasih

M. Misdianto

Salam kenal! Emang di Leiden ada jurusan IT? Sayang sekali kami tidak bisa melakukan hal ini ... Meursault2004ngobrol 22:28, 15 Juli 2008 (UTC)

id="toc", class="toc", class="toccolors" dan navboxes

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Hi,

When I first started adjusting the many lateral navboxes here and on jv, one of the things that most needed changing (and still does in many places) is the use of id="toc". In xhtml, only one element per page can have any specific 'id' and in the case of 'toc' it is the table of contents that is generated if the page has more than something like 4 level-two sections. If some other element uses it, the page is invalid; if more than two elements, like two navboxes, use the id, then the page is invalid whether MediaWiki generates a table of contents or not.

What does 'invalid' mean, exactly? Well any validator tool will scream bloody murder and some user agents (browsers) may have rendering problems. The major browsers are rather forgiving of bad code; their goal is to render something that looks good even when fed bad code. Other agents, say on handphones, or tools like bots, search engines and external wiki-editing tools may have problems. So, bad code should go. I've been converting id="toc" to class="toc" which fixes the validation issue, but does not address a semantic issue; class="toc" is not supposed to be used for things other than true tables of contents; using class="toccolors" loses the border and padding which would need to come from somewhere else (the intent is that it come from some semantically appropriate template).

Much of the hard-coded navigation box code was ported some years ago from en:wp, which has since developed many better ways of doing things; navbox templates, for example. I've not taken a close look at the navbox template here; I expect it was hauled over as was the wiki-table code and had the text translated. The underlying code is likely out-of-sync with the current en:wp template; periodic updating based on changes there (or anywhere else that makes code improvements) should be performed. This is a sort of trickle-down of code and it is highly inefficient; inherent in the wiki-model of free-labour. Recall my comment about a global template namespace.

So, I've been tweaking code and sticking to plain-tables for the most part; a few hard-code div-elements where table don't suffice. I have just made a couple of test-version of navboxes that I would like comment on.

These are implemented a bit differently than the others; for one, they look the same on all browsers (well, the major ones), so part of what I'm looking for comment on is the 'look'. Taking the navboxes to the next level is a job for templates and the place to do this is;

  • {{Navbox}} and its related parts

There are a number of things I don't much like about the standard navbox and that is part of why I've not used it so far. For one, its appearance with cellspacing allowing the white background to show through around all of the cells with backgrounds look terrible.

comments welcome,

Jack Merridew 10:08, 14 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Please note that my examples are now buried in the history of those two templates and my comments are no longer about the current versions. I should have expected this. The oldis I was referring to are at;
I was, in part, seeking input on the look of these examples, not the implementation. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:53, 16 Juli 2008 (UTC)
sunting

Hope you're enjoying today. Laters.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:12, 18 Juli 2008 (UTC)

wrappers

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I have created wrappers around the main {{Navigasi ID}};

They are currently deployed on;

You can find stuff easily via;

The wrappers will allow things like a 'below' row on all of a class of templates (done one the Provinsi one); we could also do categories in these.

I moved some context-specific stuff from the main template and core to the wrappers; the group min-width and removal of the banding; currently there is a new tweak in the core; a min-width on the imageright cell to get the cells the same width when the image is a different size. This should be moved to the wrappers as context may not want it. To do this, will require an imagestyle attribute be passed in and this vaguely messes with 100% backward compatibility (although this is exactly what the new Navbox on en:wp does).

Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:49, 19 Juli 2008 (UTC)

the boy with the equipment insecurities was back

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I'm also looking over the mess from yesterday. I was offline all day as there was a major cremation here; power was off much of the day to allow the 26m tower to be carried down Jl. Raya, there were tens of thousands of people packed onto 1km of road. Word has it that this was the largest cremation ceremony ever held on the island, and I believe it. There were some injuries and kids lost in the crush. Some folks were seriously hurt when the framework under the tower knocked down a streetlight into the crowd. See [:Berkas:Ubud Cremation 2.jpg this] from a few years ago, but picture rather larger. I took over a hundred pics and will upload a bunch to Commons. They didn't burn the tower until the next day (today) because of the crowds and concern that they might torch the whole neighborhood. They disassembled it and did it in pieces; I didn't get pictures of that and expect they would not be nearly as impressive.

re the boy; that was one of the usernames from some days ago. By renaming it, he was able to just recreate it. Maybe a username blacklist entry with 'merridew' in it? (and a few other obvious words). Probably futile, as he uses unicode variants and they're effectively limitless. Also, I have it on good authority that he is also en:wp's Avril Lavigne troll, so watch for that in edit summaries.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:32, 16 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Tulis pesan di Borgx

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Mas Revo,

Kenapa ketika Saya mau meninggalkan pesan untuk Borgx yang keluar adalah:

You do not have permission to edit pages, for the following reason: This page has been locked to prevent editing.

Return to Pembicaraan Pengguna:Borgx.

Begitu aku klik ke Pembicaraan Pengguna:Borgx aku juga masih gak bisa ninggalin pesan.

Bisa bantu gak Mas??

Makasih

NaidNdeso (bicara) 18:58, 17 Juli 2008 (UTC)

OK Mas, mungkin karena saya baru aja ngedaftar lagi sehingga masih dianggap newbie. Borgx bilang bahwa dia tidak suka dapat pesan dari bukan wikipedian. Apa sering terjadi ya Mas, udah login ke wikipedia dan jarang banget nulis? Seperti yang dimaksudkan oleh Borgx itu ya??

Anyhow, makasih banyak Mas. NaidNdeso (bicara) 09:43, 19 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Wikisource Jawa

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I'm talking with Pras and John Vandenburg about a Javanese wikisource. Pras has started a thread at the Kopi Warung and John has a thread going at oldwikisource:Talk:Main Page:Basa Jawa.

The navboxes are on a lot of pages now. Just realized I'm on your id page. Cheers, Jack Merridew 16:05, 21 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Re: adik kelas

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Maaf Mas baru dibales, baru dapet akses internet 24 jam lagi nih :-p. Benar, orang yang mengaku-aku adik kelas saya itu memang adik kelas saya :-D. Katanya sampeyan udah jadi teman curhatnya ya :-p. Salam buat Tri Djambrong ya, ajak dia ngisi di wikipedia id tuh. :-) Salam geboy (bicara) 16:25, 22 Juli 2008 (UTC)

need a history merge

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See;

vs;

I believe what happened here is that Reindra copy-pasted them instead of moving them; Kabupaten got renamed, I guess. So, on wiki's where everyone's into playing the wiki-lawyer-game, someone would do a history merge to preserve the attribution of contribs in the older pages; or we could just delete the old ones. I pass this one off to you; comment to Reindra as you see fit. Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:58, 23 Juli 2008 (UTC)

I have no objection to just ditching the new ones and then moving the old ones to the new names, leaving redirect behind. I'm thinking I'll just go tweak the old ones, too. Will review a bit more, first. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:10, 24 Juli 2008 (UTC)

My suggestion; open each new page in turn and copy the text; delete the new page and move the old one over it and paste the new text over the old text; repeat, the template, too. And the category pages need to be created. If the new text is pasted into the old page and saved, the Kecamatan template will break; this is because of the way that it glues two parameters together to get the page name. This is to allow a short-form in the template invocation and to enforce a naming convention. This is a poor scheme and should be undone — which is a royal pain. And this is why it's a poor scheme; anything that reduces flexibility is misconceived.

Part of my view here is driven by my view that a lot of things are at the wrong name; far too many primary names contain a disambiguation page. If I were to ask you what island is to the west of Bali (and I asked in Bahasa Indonesia), would you answer Jawa or Pulau Jawa? and to the east; Lombok, or Pulau Lombok? And see what's at those links now.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:43, 24 Juli 2008 (UTC)

I've just finished;

and Sumatera is the only batch of Kabupaten left to do, so the above mess would be nice to sort out soon. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:51, 12 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Arsip

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Meursault2004, bagaimana cara membuat arsip tanpa terjadi huruf bold? Tolong perbaiki halaman ini. Bisa tolong urutkan arsipnya, maksud saya untuk bulannya. Terima Kasih. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 03:07, 28 Juli 2008 (UTC)

ping, 2

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Pembicaraan Pengguna:Borgx#Templat:Dati4; Maaf, Jack Merridew 16:18, 29 Juli 2008 (UTC)

The fix is to do this to these;

here is a better change ← needs to happen ASAP

Cheers, Jack Merridew 16:32, 29 Juli 2008 (UTC)

I've got to go; it's almost 1:00am here. Fix works; I'll check back tomorrow. Use 1em, not 2em. Cheers, Jack Merridew 16:52, 29 Juli 2008 (UTC)

This has to be fixed ASAP; it is breaking for users of Firefox < v3.0, about 15% of users, and it is breaking badly for tens of thousands of pages. here and here you were editing the style of the table, not the caption of the table — which is the next line. The 'auto' has to be changed. The choice between 2em, 1em, or something else is a mere detail that pinches the caption a bit. Please, unprotect and let me fix this. More in a bit. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:17, 30 Juli 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the requested edit above; this is a change to the styling of the caption above the infobox. The inherit is a complex story and I'll explain further over on Borgx's talk page where most of this discussion should be. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:35, 30 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:33, 30 Juli 2008 (UTC)

All fixed; sorry for the trouble. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:48, 30 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Penerjemahan

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Bagaimana kalau artikel Stade de Genève saya pindahkan ke Stadion Jenewa ? Thanks. Albertus Aditya (bicara) 15:05, 31 Juli 2008 (UTC)

Wikites

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Kok link yang sampeyan kasih di halaman user sampeyan kok gak bisa ya?  Azmi   Bicara  13:39, 1 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Ulang tahun?

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Met ulang taon yo... --Viva (la • Vida) 14:39, 2 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Bahasa

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Apakah kata banyan merupakan bahasa Indonesia atau bukan ? Terima kasih. Albertus Aditya (bicara) 08:36, 11 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Awalan dan akhiran

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Bung, bagaimana menurut Anda artikel -wan yang saya mulai ini? Apakah artikel-artikel awalan dan akhiran dalam bahasa Indonesia (yang kadang-kadang membingungkan) cocok dimasukkan di Wikipedia atau Wikisumber atau WikiUniversitas? – (-_-)V bennylin (404 • sumbangan) 05:59, 14 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

3RR on Kota Depok

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Someone with a bunch of IPs keeps adding some link to Kota Depok; Borqx reverted it and I've done so 3 times. And now there's a note with my user name in the article. I turn this over; thanks. Cheers. Jack Merridew 14:05, 14 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I think this is the same guy; [1] on Kabupaten Bogor. Cheers, Jack Merridew 14:56, 14 Agustus 2008 (UTC)
and here; [2] on André Joseph Guillaume Henri Kostermans. Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:39, 14 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Chime-in, please?

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Hi, could I get you to participate in a few discussions?

One involves exceeding MediaWiki's template expansion limits. see;

which is not rendering properly. Most of the discussion about this is at;

I think the WikiProject is mostly historical; focused on building most of the articles and pages I've been editing in the first place. The pages that are basically galleries of templates are useful to me for navigating all the templates, but the new templates are pushing the limits of MediaWiki. BorgX has suggested inlining the templates to avoid causing MediaWiki grief. This may be best from the point of view of the WikiProject. I can create my own gallery pages in my userspace. Many of the numbers in those tables are incorrect as the world has moved on since 2006.

Pretty much all of the administrative navboxes for provinces, kabupaten and kecamatan are done. See my comments at;

for what I see as next in this area.

The other discussion is;

Basically, this kabupaten was moved in January and I moved the Kecs, templates, and categories to agree with the naming. And it was all the wrong name and things need to move again. I only want to do this once more, so I want a solid plan up front before I touch this again.

Oh, there are other bits of both conversations on my talk page.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:04, 18 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Templat

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Kang Meursault, ada nggak daftar templat di wikipedia Indonesia? tOLONG infonya ya. 161.139.100.98 08:59, 20 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Candi Sojiwan - Candi Penataran

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Saya kagum anda dapat membaca bahasa pictograf/hierograf pada relief candi Sojiwan pada artikel anda. Apakah anda dapat melakukan hal yang sama pada contoh relief candi Penataran seperti pada foto? Jika anda bisa.. saya akan memotret seluruh relief di candi Penataran untuk anda. ESCapade (bicara) 12:52, 23 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

a surreal thread on meta

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Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:14, 23 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Ganesa

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Penerjemahan artikel Ganesa terbengkalai. Jika anda masih sibuk, sebaiknya tidak usah dipaksa untuk diterjemahkan. Akan saya hapus bagian-bagian yang belum rampung.

-- Adiputra बिचर -- 09:04, 26 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

Deo Volente

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Masalah di map-bms.wiki sudah beres karena bantuan dari meta.wiki. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 05:09, 27 Agustus 2008 (UTC)

-stan

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[4] Ada hubungannya sama -stan... (kecuali Kazakhstan) – (-_-)V bennylin (404 • sumbangan) 06:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Artikel

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Mas Revo, tadi saya menambah artikel kenapa tidak bergerak-gerak artikelnya? Willy2000 21:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

om revo, bisa ga proofread punya saya yang tentang Ich bin ein Berliner? kalo sempet monggo yoo, aku aktip lg di Wikie, mumpung liboourr.. Neorhazes (bicara) 16:23, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bot/Permohonan

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Bonjour,

Il n'y a pas d'indication sur la durée de la candidature au statut de bot. Est-ce que 2 semaines sont suffisantes ?

Cordialement,

--Hercule (bicara) 14:34, 6 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Pas de réponse? --Hercule (bicara) 01:22, 11 Oktober 2008 (UTC)
Je veux bien ;) --Hercule (bicara) 07:16, 13 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Sudah dihapus

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Halo Meursault2004, artikel ini ternyata sudah dihapus di en.wiki. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 04:59, 16 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Saya memberitahukannya saja. Maksudnya apakah Meursault2004 mau mencari rujukan Link yang baru dengan nama baru di en.wiki. Tetapi kalau tidak ada, ya tidak masalah. Bukan seperti Meursault2004 katakan masing-masing Wikipedia Otonom. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 08:05, 16 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

map-bms.wiki

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Meursault2004, di map-bms.wiki pada Recentchangesnya tolong tambahkan Link bahasa lain (dari wiki-wiki lainnya). Terima Kasih. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 09:05, 23 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Tanya

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Saya mau request ganti nama pengguna. Apakah hal tersebut bisa dilakukan?? Jika memang ya tolong bantu saya.

Oiya, apakah saya bisa mengUPLOAD foto saya ke halaman pengguna??

Maaf, jika saya merepotkan.

Terimakasih

Wassalam,

Maz-V (bicara) 11:41, 28 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

w:en:WP:RFArb, Tomorrow

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Hi Revi, I'm sorry I've been away. Two reasons, basically; a major real-life concern in September, and a refocus on English projects to facilitate my return to en:wp. Much discussion later, I expect a post concerning me tomorrow. Cheers, Jack Merridew 08:39, 29 Oktober 2008 (UTC)

Things Take Time, Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Tanggapan

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Mohon tanggapannya pada Pembicaraan:Ki Hajar Dewantara. Terima kasih, Albertus Aditya (bicara) 11:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Artikel Serupa

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Mohon tanggapan untuk kesamaan artikel antara SMP Negeri I Surabaya dengan SMP Negeri 1 Surabaya. Artikel tersebut serupa (menyalin) namun ada sedikit perbedaan pada gaya bahasa (kapitalisasi huruf dkk). Ada 1 informasi yang berbeda : pada SMP Negeri I Surabaya dituliskan 2 tingkat sedangkan pada SMP Negeri 1 Surabaya dituliskan 3 tingkat. Terima kasih, Albertus Aditya (bicara) 07:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC).

O, iya ada 1 lagi : ke-dua artikel tersebut ditulis oleh pengguna yang sama yaitu Gayo Allam Alfani. Ia membuat terlebih dahulu artikel SMP Negeri I Surabaya baru SMP Negeri 1 Surabaya. Saya merasa bahwa ia kurang mengerti tentang REDIRECT.

en's Bambi vandal

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Above user is a cross-wiki vandal; that's one of many names used. Most are blocked and this should probably move to global blocking, soon. See;

Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this guy considered a vandal on en:? I just checked him and I think he is based in the US. However I think he is an Indonesian or he can speak Indonesian. He knows the differences between Malaysian and Indonesian. Meursault2004ngobrol 10:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Ya, it's 'The Disney vandal' I don't know much about this one, but it said Mobile, Alabama on that w:en:WP:AN#Bambifan101 and his socks thread. I did notice the fluency in Indonesian, so, could be. My understanding it that it's a mix of good edits and vandalism and always related to Disney and Bambi. Have a chat with w:en:User:Collectonian who knows a lot about this. It's not just that user name; there are many and a lot of IPs. The gist of the AN thread is that other wikis, such as here, are on their own. I figured you should get a heads-up. If you'd like, I'll ask a friendly steward about a global block; the folks on meta actually care about non-en:wp. Cheers, Jack Merridew 14:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I have been a few days off ... Perhaps we need to warn him? But how about the good edits he made? I don't know what the global policy is or the policy on meta. Meursault2004ngobrol 15:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Up to you, really. I can't tell good edits from bad, here. That en:AN thread has been archived to;
There's talk of contacting Bell South (ISP) and/or range blocking; consensus on en and some other places is whatever 'good' there is does not counter balance the bad. Basically it's a twerp kid playing a game. See the silly chatter on his Thai talk page;
A left a note for a 'crat there, too.
Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:40, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Nama

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Bung, Gatot Subroto itu seharusnya Gatot Subrata (menggunakan O-Jawa) bukan? – (-_-)V bennylin (404 • sumbangan) 07:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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Halo Meursault2004, bisa ikut berpartisipasi di Wikimedia? Terima Kasih. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 03:55, 3 Desember 2008 (UTC)

FIFA

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Halo, apakah Fédération Internationale de Football Association bisa dirujuk pada kata Federasi Internasional Persatuan Sepak Bola ? Bukankah lebih baik digunakan Federasi Sepak Bola Internasional (Football Association : sepak bola bukan persatuan / asosiasi sepak bola). Thanks. Albertus Aditya (bicara) 05:07, 10 Desember 2008 (UTC)

fyi re Jack Merridew

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Hi Revi, I thought I'd let you know that I'm back on en:wp w/mentors; some terms and conditions apply. I expect that this will prompt a bump in my id:wp activity — I've been primarily focused on Wikisource of late; working with John. I'll still work there, but see a lot of stuff related to Indonesia on en:wp that needs work and plan on working from both the en and id perspective. Anything interesting been going one here about in the last few months? Cheers, Jack Merridew 15:08, 11 Desember 2008 (UTC)

Puputan

Could you look at the interwiki links on;

I'm not sure what the difference in subject between the two jv:wp articles is. If you have any time, the en page could use help; that merge was suggested per m:dick. I'm going to ping Pras, too. Cheers, Jack Merridew 06:26, 14 Desember 2008 (UTC)

User:Poil de pubis à Martin

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Hi, long time no see! I've found that you blocked this user because of username. Does it mean "Martin's public hair"? (I got this idea after using Goole Translate) --אדםוןד ואודס (bicara) 02:42, 15 Desember 2008 (UTC)

uploads on id.wikisource

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Hello Meursault2004, I need Your help, I have seen by chance that an user in id.wikisource is uploading [5] images from other websites, see also s:Istimewa:Log/upload, images that have no free licence but say "©2007 Sekretariat Negara Republik Indonesia ", I have tried to inform You about that [6], but maybe he speaks no English (I unfortunately speak no Indonesian)

I hope You can reach out to him and explain him that he can't continue with that, and delete these images,

kind thanks and best regards, --burung (:> )=| 01:25, 18 Desember 2008 (UTC)

Dear Spacebirdy, thanks for the info. The so-called Sekretariat Negara Republik Indonesia (literally 'Secretary of the state of the Reublic of Indonesia') is a government agency and as such there is no copyright on works of Indonesian government. However I don't know what the policy is. I am trying to inquire on other users/administrators. You'll hear from me again ASAP. Meursault2004ngobrol 04:18, 18 Desember 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Common.css -- caption fixes

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See;

where I've proposed a couple of fixes to the site css. The exact same issue is present on id:wp and jv:wp (it was copied to most everywhere). There are more instances of the problem on id and jv than en due to some code-cloning. Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:08, 24 Desember 2008 (UTC)

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