Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Teknis)/Arsip/Oktober 2015
Wikilabels localization, final few things
suntingHello all, we have concluded the older campaigns for English, Portuguese, Persian and Turkish which have concluded recently which was partially why we had this gap. So we are very close in launching the edit quality campaign for this wiki as well. All we need is the translation of the relevant entry on m:Wiki labels/Interface translation and m:Wiki labels/Interface translation/Edit quality. We are very excited to expand our work to include this wiki and can start the campaign as soon as we have the two pages translated. Thanks! -- とある白い猫 chi? 11 Oktober 2015 17.18 (UTC)
- @とある白い猫: Thank you. It's done in this pull request and this pull request. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 14 Oktober 2015 13.14 (UTC)
- One last thing, one thing we do is we auto label revisions we think are likely good these include revisions that are not reverted in a while and revisions that were made by users with higher access (such as sysop). What user groups aside from sysop are "trusted" on this wiki? User groups I see are: autoreview, bot, bureaucrat, checkuser, editor, flow-bot, ipblock-exempt, oversight, reviewer, rollbacker, sysop. -- とある白い猫 chi? 22 Oktober 2015 22.38 (UTC)
- @とある白い猫: Question, is "bot" categorized as "users with higher access"? If so, then I think all the rights you mentioned (except "ipblock-exempt") can be considered as "trusted". Thank you. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 22 Oktober 2015 23.58 (UTC)
- Trust here is where we do not expect the usergroup to vandalize Wikipedia. We do not normally expect bots to vandalize which is why we trust. Idea here is the wiki has bigger problem if a trusted usergroup is Vandalising than statistical bias in our machine learning algorithms.
- I noticed that this wiki does not have a localization of wikilabels landing page. Do you think you can do this? I'd be more than happy to help with the template structure should there be problems.
- -- とある白い猫 chi? 25 Oktober 2015 10.11 (UTC)
- @とある白い猫: Yeah sure, please advice on what to translate.·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 25 Oktober 2015 10.26 (UTC)
- @Kenrick95: Hello, so the pages to copy and localize are en:Wikipedia:Labels and its sub pages. I'd be more than happy to help with this action. First you need to help identify a good translation for the word labels. -- とある白い猫 chi? 7 Desember 2015 03.57 (UTC)
- @とある白い猫: Yeah sure, please advice on what to translate.·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 25 Oktober 2015 10.26 (UTC)
- @とある白い猫: Question, is "bot" categorized as "users with higher access"? If so, then I think all the rights you mentioned (except "ipblock-exempt") can be considered as "trusted". Thank you. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 22 Oktober 2015 23.58 (UTC)
- One last thing, one thing we do is we auto label revisions we think are likely good these include revisions that are not reverted in a while and revisions that were made by users with higher access (such as sysop). What user groups aside from sysop are "trusted" on this wiki? User groups I see are: autoreview, bot, bureaucrat, checkuser, editor, flow-bot, ipblock-exempt, oversight, reviewer, rollbacker, sysop. -- とある白い猫 chi? 22 Oktober 2015 22.38 (UTC)
2 pengurus, plis donk vote
suntingKemaren, pemungutan suara proposal sistem DP yang diadakan Arifin.wijaya akhirnya disetujui karena ada 2 pengurus (Muhraz & Wagino) yang ngevote. Sekarang pemungutan suara proposal kriteria DP mbok ya tolong divote ada 2 pengurus lagi donk, sukur-sukur 2 pengurus yang kemaren mau ngevote. Masak mau proyeknya jadi timpang sebelah ? --What a joke (bicara) 14 Oktober 2015 11.29 (UTC)
Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai! (periode 7 dan 8 tahun 2016)
suntingMediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 20 Oktober 2015 11.51 (UTC)
Masalah sortir tabel, angka dan tanda "-"?
suntingSaya sedang mengedit sebuah tabel besar yang ada nomor dan simbol "-" sebagai filler, (contohnya, seperti Daftar Pokémon), tetapi di tengah jalan, saya menemukan masalah ketika mengklik salah satu bagian dari tabel tersebut, contohnya seperti ini:
| Nama | Nomor Barat | Nomor Timur |
|---|---|---|
| Lina | - | 1 |
| Maya | 1 | - |
| Agung | 2 | 2 |
| Praja | - | - |
Ada masalah sortir angka ketika mengklik tab Nomor Barat atau Nomor Timur.
Masalahnya, angka-angka tersebut berada di bawah karena simbol "-" mendahuluinya, ini bisa membuat pembaca Wikipedia harus melihat nomornya dari bawah (jika ada banyak tanda "-" di bagian atas), dan ini bisa mengakibatkan membaca tabel kurang nyaman. Simbol apa yang mesti dipakai biar tidak menghalangi angka-angka tersebut berada di atas, dari angka urut 1 sampai 100 di bawah? Terima kasih. WindVee 20 Oktober 2015 18.24 (UTC)
- Pakai {{sortkey}}
| Nama | Nomor Barat | Nomor Timur |
|---|---|---|
| Lina | - | 1 |
| Maya | 1 | - |
| Agung | 2 | 2 |
| Praja | - | - |
Usulan mengenai templat kepala daerah
suntingMengenai templat kepala daerah setingkat kabupaten/kota yang terdapat pada WBI saat ini adalah per provinsi atau setiap provinsi memiliki template nya sendiri.
seperti template berikut ini :
Kami mengusulkan agar templat masing-masing provinsi ini disatukan saja menjadi {{Kepala daerah di Indonesia}}, atau bisa dalam lingkup yang lebih kecil, dibuat per pulau misalnya. Mohon pertimbangan, pendapat atau usulan lainnya agar berubah menjadi lebih baik. Terima kasih. aryphrase ✉ 23 Oktober 2015 16.33 (UTC)
Contoh templat yang akan dibuat adalah sebagai berikut
Tentunya dengan data-data dari provinsi lain. aryphrase ✉ 23 Oktober 2015 18.25 (UTC)
- Perasaan saya sih menggabungkan templat-templat tersebut akan membuatnya jadi sangat besar dan bagi saya, kurang enak dilihat. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 25 Oktober 2015 10.29 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #5—2015
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