Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Teknis)
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Bagian ini digunakan untuk mendiskusikan tentang hal-hal teknis yang berkaitan dengan Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia pada khususnya dan proyek-proyek Wikimedia lainnya secara umum, yang tidak dapat Anda temukan di halaman bantuan. | |||||||||||||
Ingat beri tanda tangan dan tanggal pada akhir pesan Anda dengan cara mengetikkan . Harap menambahkan topik baru hanya di bagian bawah halaman ini.
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Ringkasan suntingan ketika menggunakan Twinkle
Ketika menggunakan Twinkle, saya mendapati bahwa ringkasan suntingan tertulis "Reverted 2 edits by xxx (talk) to last revision by xxx." Padahal, 2 tahun yang lalu ketika saya menggunakan alat yang sama, ringkasan suntingannya tertulis "Membatalkan 1 suntingan oleh xxx (pembicaraan) diidentifikasi sebagai vandalisme ke revisi terakhir oleh xxx." Mengapa ya? Hanamanteo Halaman pembicaraan saya 31 Januari 2016 03.21 (UTC)
- Ya begitulah, dalam bahasa awam, karena proses penerjemahan dua tahun lalu kurang rapi, terpaksa proses penerjemahan diulang kembali menggunakan proses yang lebih baik. Teknisnya, dahulunya saya langsung menerjemahkan di kode sumber di Wikipedia, walaupun dokumentasi Twinkle menyarankan memakai GitHub (i.e. sistem manajemen kode sumber), akhirnya setelah beberapa perbaruan dari Twinkle (en), terjemahan lokal ini tidak dapat lagi diperbarui secara manual, dan sistem manajemen kode sumber sangatlah diperlukan, karena itulah proses penerjemahan diulang dan kali ini ditaruh di GitHub sebelum dipublikasi ke Wikipedia. Mohon dimaklumi. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 31 Januari 2016 15.18 (UTC)
- Omong-omong, sejak 1 Juli 2014 Twinkle tidak dapat digunakan hingga setahun kemudian (Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Teknis)/Arsip/Juli 2015#Twinkle). Mengapa bisa demikian? Sejak kapan Twinkle dapat digunakan kembali? Hanamanteo Halaman pembicaraan saya 6 Februari 2016 14.48 (UTC)
14 langsung 16
Saya cek disini kok ada tanggal 14 November kok langsung loncat 16 November ?
--Erik Fastman (bicara) 6 Februari 2016 12.19 (UTC)
- Parameter tahunnya salah. Sudah saya perbaiki. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 6 Februari 2016 13.41 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Syntax highlighting support is now available for 53 more computer languages. [1]
- When you get a notification that an edit has been reverted, the notification now quotes part of the edit summary. [2]
- RESTBase is now using
scrub_wikitext
instead ofscrubWikitext
. [3]
Changes this week
- Wikidata will have a new data type called "math". It will be used for formulas. [4][5]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 February. It will be on all wikis from 11 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is per-language URLs for pages of multilingual wikis. The meeting will be on 10 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Other sites will be able to tell when visitors come from links on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites. They used to be able to do this until we started using forced HTTPS in June 2015. This is planned to happen on 15 February. [6][7]
- Wikidata will have a new data type called "external-id". It will be used for references to external resources. It will be enabled on February 16. Some properties will be changed to the new data type. [8][9][10]
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8 Februari 2016 18.58 (UTC)
Marmaray
Ada yang bisa membetulkan artikel ini: Marmaray --Erik Fastman (bicara) 13 Februari 2016 02.13 (UTC)
Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai! (periode 15 & 16)
MediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 13 Februari 2016 06.16 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now edit pages on the mobile site version without JavaScript. [11]
- You can now use the Math extension to write chemistry formulas. [12]
Problems
- A few editors might have been logged in as someone else because of a bug. For security reasons everyone was logged out on 9 February. If you have seen this bug, you can report it. [13][14]
Changes this week
- There is a beta feature that adds links to the subject on other Wikimedia projects. The plan was to have it leave beta testing and be enabled for everyone in January. It will happen on 16 February instead. Wikis that don't want this can decide to have it disabled. [15][16]
- Cross-wiki notifications will be available as a beta feature on Wikidata, MediaWiki, Commons, and all Hebrew and French wikis on 19 February. [17]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 February. It will be on all wikis from 18 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 16 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The search function on Wikimedia wikis will get a completion suggester that tries to find the right pages as the user is typing. It will also recognize some typos. This will probably happen in March. It is currently in beta. [18]
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15 Februari 2016 16.16 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Phabricator has been upgraded. [19][20]
Problems
- There was no new MediaWiki version last week. Changes that were planned to happen last week will happen this week instead. This is because of a bug that made saving pages take longer time. [21][22]
Changes this week
- After February 23, you can use Wikidata for inter-language links on Wikiversity. [23]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is Assign RFCs to ArchCom shepherds. The meeting will be on 24 February at 22:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22 Februari 2016 18.22 (UTC)
Blokir IP
Pengurus, ada yang bisa nggak ngelakuin blokir IP terhadap pemilik ID ini:
- AriefMulyadi (bicara • kontrib. • kontrib. yang dihapus • pemindahan • blokir • log pemblokiran • CentralAuth)
- ArminDank (bicara • kontrib. • kontrib. yang dihapus • pemindahan • blokir • log pemblokiran • CentralAuth)
- FilipKelilip (bicara • kontrib. • kontrib. yang dihapus • pemindahan • blokir • log pemblokiran • CentralAuth)
Pasalnya sudah 3X doi ngelakuin pelecehan terhadap Erik Evrest dengan ID berbeda. Saya juga bingung apa modusnya --Erik Fastman (bicara) 25 Februari 2016 12.05 (UTC)
Berkas
Mohon berkas ini dihapus secepatnya, karena belum memiliki lisensi bebas Logo SMP Negeri 6 Surabaya
Hendry Naufal Marbella 25 Februari 2016 14.03 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #1—2016
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.
Recent changes
You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.
Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.
The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.
Future changes
The single edit tab project will combine the "Sunting" and "Sunting sumber" tabs into a single "Sunting" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Sunting" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Penyuntingan tab of Special:Preferences:
- Ingat penyunting terakhir saya,
- Selalu tampilkan penyunting visual bila dimungkinkan.,
- Selalu tampilkan penyunting sumber, and
- Tampilkan kedua tab penyunting. (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)
The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. This will affect the following languages, amongst others: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic.
Let's work together
- Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wiki-indonesia.club. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
- Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Does typing in these languages feels natural in the visual editor? Language engineer David Chan needs to know. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org.
- Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Terima kasih!
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Thanks to the Graph extension and Pageview API, we now have {{Graph:PageViews}} templates that can show pageviews for any wiki page for any of the wikis. See the examples.
- The Capiunto extension is installed on test wiki. Capiunto provides flexible infobox functionality for Scribunto and generates HTML for infobox features such as headers and rows. It is designed for clean and modern infoboxes that are driven by data from Wikidata, easily usable across different language versions, and easily extensible.
- The visual editor now follows the TemplateData
format
setting announced in November. When you edit or add a use of a template, the wikitext will be laid out in one of the two ways. [24][25] - The order of parameters and format defined in a template's TemplateData will be now respected. [26][27]
Changes this week
- On wikis where the visual editor is available in single edit tab mode, red links may open the visual editor instead of the wikitext editor, depending on user preferences. [28]
- Anonymous editor warning is now displayed as a warningbox for consistency in both the visual editor and the wikitext editor. [29]
- Parsoid has been updated to fit some HTML 5 specifications. [30]
Meetings
- Resigning executive director Lila Tretikov is taking questions at Knowledge Engine FAQ regarding the much talked about project. [31]
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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29 Februari 2016 20.12 (UTC)
Mencoba Flow di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia
Halo, saya berpikiran untuk mengaktifkan ekstensi Flow di Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia sebagai percobaan. Flow merupakan ekstensi halaman pembicaraan yang bertujuan agar ramah dengan pengguna baru dan juga praktis dengan pengguna lama. Flow mengubah halaman pembicaraan menjadi sebuah forum yang tediri dari beberapa thread yang bisa dimasukkan dalam daftar pantauan sendiri. Flow juga otomatis mengarsipkan thread yang sudah lama tidak aktif.
Sebagai percobaan, saya berpikir untuk memakainya di halaman warung kopi yang baru, agar para pengguna baru dapat langsung bertanya dan meminta bantuan tentang menyunting di Wikipedia. Menurut saya, tidak ada salahnya mencoba teknologi baru ini. Bagaimana menurut para Wikipediawan sekalian?
Salam. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 1 Maret 2016 14.40 (UTC)
- Setuju Yha. — FarrasLa Poste 2 Maret 2016 12.33 (UTC)
- Setuju No problemo. Mari kita uji coba. Albertus Aditya (bicara) 2 Maret 2016 13.14 (UTC)
- Setuju John Vandenberg (bicara) 6 Maret 2016 05.27 (UTC)
- Setuju suka! --Beeyan (bicara) 8 Maret 2016 06.49 (UTC)
- Jadinya seperti Wikia dong. Kalau begitu, saia Dua-tujuh! mahalisyarifuddin bicara 8 Maret 2016 07.02 (UTC)
- Setuju. Tidak ada salahnya mencoba yang baru. ··· 👦 Rachmat04 · 💬 8 Maret 2016 08.03 (UTC)
- Tidak setuju Secara teknis, fitur ini akan membuat halaman menjadi lebih lama dalam hal loading (saya sudah coba fitur ini di mw:Talk:Flow). — Bonaditya (bicara) 10 Maret 2016 14.46 (UTC)
- Apakah kelambatannya separah itukah sehingga mengganggu kenyamanan menyunting? Secara teknis VE juga membuat penyuntingan membuat lebih lambat, namun coba pikirkan pengguna baru yang tidak mengetahui teks wiki, bukankah mereka lebih bisa menyunting pakai VE dan mau menunggu agar VE dimuat. Namun VE sejauh ini tidak pernah (dan tidak akan) diaktifkan di halaman pembicaraan, sehingga para pengguna baru cukup bingung untuk menghubungi pengguna lain. Usulan saya ini adalah untuk membuat halaman warung kopi yang baru agar pengguna baru dapat menghubungi kita secara nyaman. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 11 Maret 2016 00.51 (UTC)
- Komentar Sekadar usul saja, kalau bisa buat halaman Warung Kopi yang baru seperti Teahouse di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris. Kalau seperti itu, saya akan setuju. — Bonaditya (bicara) 11 Maret 2016 05.32 (UTC)
- @Bonaditya: Iya, dalam pikiran saya, halaman tersebut seperti Teahouse. Mungkin namanya "Warung kopi (bantuan)" atau semacamnya (aneh sih kalau namanya "warung teh" hahaha) ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 11 Maret 2016 14.34 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Meja bantuan? Muhraz (bicara) 13 Maret 2016 08.02 (UTC)
- Setuju dengan sedikit Komentar, bahwa melihat beberapa pandangan di atas dari teman-teman, saya setuju asal janganlah sampai loading lama. --A.A.T. 'Dahler' Het Pontianaksch Volk 12 Maret 2016 05.30 (UTC)
- @Bonaditya: Iya, dalam pikiran saya, halaman tersebut seperti Teahouse. Mungkin namanya "Warung kopi (bantuan)" atau semacamnya (aneh sih kalau namanya "warung teh" hahaha) ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 11 Maret 2016 14.34 (UTC)
- Komentar Sekadar usul saja, kalau bisa buat halaman Warung Kopi yang baru seperti Teahouse di Wikipedia bahasa Inggris. Kalau seperti itu, saya akan setuju. — Bonaditya (bicara) 11 Maret 2016 05.32 (UTC)
- Apakah kelambatannya separah itukah sehingga mengganggu kenyamanan menyunting? Secara teknis VE juga membuat penyuntingan membuat lebih lambat, namun coba pikirkan pengguna baru yang tidak mengetahui teks wiki, bukankah mereka lebih bisa menyunting pakai VE dan mau menunggu agar VE dimuat. Namun VE sejauh ini tidak pernah (dan tidak akan) diaktifkan di halaman pembicaraan, sehingga para pengguna baru cukup bingung untuk menghubungi pengguna lain. Usulan saya ini adalah untuk membuat halaman warung kopi yang baru agar pengguna baru dapat menghubungi kita secara nyaman. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 11 Maret 2016 00.51 (UTC)
Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai! (periode 16 dan 17)
MediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 2 Maret 2016 14.05 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Files on Wikimedia Commons can now be 2 GB big. The old limit was 1 GB. [32]
- Welcome notifications now have a different symbol. English Wikipedia already had this one. [33]
- The Wikimedia memory cache servers in the Eqiad cluster have now been upgraded to Debian 8 (Jessie). Some users might have had to log in again because of this. [34]
- It is now easier to categorize images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons in the Commons Android app. [35]
- Bare attributes in tags now parse according to the HTML5 specifications.
<pages from= to= section=1>
will parse as<pages from="to=" section="1">
instead of<pages from="" to="" section="1">
as it used to. Please use<pages from="" to="" section=1>
or<pages section=1>
instead. This is mostly likely to affect pages on Wikisource projects. [36]
Problems
- Phabricator has been a bit unstable lately. This should be fixed now. [37]
- The PageView API shows wrong data between 23 February and 29 February for pages with special characters in their title. [38]
- The parsing change mentioned above caused a large number of pages to break, especially on Wikisource. [39]
- You may see falsely formatted edit links on both mobile and desktop devices. Mobile devices can also show incorrect formatted table of contents. This should be fixed soon. [40]
- Templates using TemplateData that were edited with the visual editor might have some problems in wikitext mode. This can be fixed by editing and saving the page by using the visual editor without making any changes. [41]
Changes this week
- Cross-wiki notifications will be enabled as a beta feature on all wikis on 10 March. You will be able to get notifications when something happens on another Wikimedia wiki. [42]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 March. It will be on all wikis from 10 March (calendar).
- Wikivoyages will get the Kartographer extension. Kartographer will allow
<mapframe>
and<maplink>
tags in an article to insert an interactive map and overlay it with different markers. You can add ideas and suggestions to the Maps talk page. If you find any bugs, you can report them in Phabricator. [43]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones. [44]
- The Wikimedia technical operations team plans to do some server work on 22 March. This could cause some problems, for example make it possible to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a short period of time. The date for this might change. [45]
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7 Maret 2016 20.24 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The mobile web interface no longer suggests HiDPI thumbnails. This is to take up less bandwidth on slow or expensive connections. [46]
- The search engine on wiki-indonesia.club has been updated. [47]
Changes this week
- Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 22 March and 24 March. This could be postponed to April 18. You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. Because of a test, there will also be a couple of minutes where you can't edit the wikis on 15 March starting 07:00 UTC. You can read more about the server work. There will be more notifications and updates about this.
- Administrators and other users with advanced permissions will need to have an 8-byte long passwords. This change takes place on 15 March. Users with too short passwords will be asked to change password the next time they log in. This was decided in a discussion on Meta and is because they can use tools that can hurt the wikis. [48]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 March. It will be on all wikis from 17 March (calendar).
- The buttons in interfaces will be simplified. Instead of white, red, green and blue buttons, in future there will only be white, red and blue ones. [49]
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 15 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
- You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topics this week are backlog and thumb API. The meeting will be on 16 March at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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14 Maret 2016 18.37 (UTC)
Ruang Nama
Apa yang dimaksud dengan ruang nama ? bagaimana saya menambah jumlah ruang nama saya ? Terima kasih atas jawaban dan bantuannya Hendry Naufal Marbella 21 Maret 2016 01.07 (UTC)